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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Nov 30, 2009 18:29:03 GMT -5

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Post by Scarper on Nov 30, 2009 18:29:03 GMT -5

New plan! I'm going to try sticking more closely to my stealthy, 'light infantry' theme - how plausible do you reckon this list is? Mostly - am I going to get absolutely floored if they bring a tank or two?

SHORTENED VERSION FOR LAZY / SENSIBLE PEOPLE: Is a MoO, 5 demo charges (all on outflankers or Marbo), 8 outflanking melta guns, 3 missile launchers on sents, 10 rough riders, 3 plasmaguns, 3 sniper rifles, and a few scattered soldiers with melta bombs unreasonable at 2000pts? Much obliged for any advice! ;D

HQ
Company Command Squad – 285pts
- Company commander (Creed stand-in)
- Vet with lasgun and medipack
- Vet with lasgun and regimental standard
- Vet with lasgun and vox caster
- Vet with lasgun
- Astropath
- Master of Ordnance
- Bodyguard
SQUAD HAS CAMO CLOAKS

Elites
Guardsman Marbo – 65pts

Troops
Green Platoon –
Platoon Command Squad – 52pts
- Platoon commander with boltgun
- Guardsman with lasgun and vox-caster
- Guardsman with grenade launcher x 3

Infantry Squad A – 60pts
- Sergeant with laspistol and CCW
- Guardsman with grenade launcher
- Guardsman with lasgun and vox-caster
- Guardsman with lasgun x 7

Infantry Squad B – 60pts
as above

Red Platoon
Platoon Command Squad – 145pts
- Captain Al’Rahem
- Guardsman with lasgun and vox-caster
- Guardsman with medipack
- Guardsman with grenade launcher x 2

Infantry Squad A – 67pts
- Sergeant with boltpistol and CCW
- Guardsman with meltagun
- Guardsman with lasgun and vox-caster
- Guardsman with lasgun x 7
Combined with:
Infantry Squad B – 60pts
- Sergeant with laspistol and CCW
- Guardsman with meltagun
- Guardsman with lasgun x 8

Infantry Squad C – 62pts
- Sergeant with boltpistol and CCW
- Guardsman with flamer
- Guardsman with lasgun and vox-caster
- Guardsman with lasgun x 7
Combined with:
Infantry Squad D – 55pts
- Sergeant with laspistol and CCW
- Guardsman with flamer
- Guardsman with lasgun x 8

Special Weapons Squad A – 80pts
- Guardsman with demo charge x 2
- Guardsman with flamer
- Guardsman with lasgun x 3

Special Weapons Squad B – 65pts
- Guardsman with meltagun x 3
- Guardsman with lasgun x 3

Vet Squad A – 122pts
- Vet sergeant with boltpistol and CCW
- Vet with sniper rifle x 3
- Vet with lasgun and vox-caster
- Vet with lasgun x5
SQUAD HAS FORWARD SENTRIES

Vet Squad B – 147pts
- Vet sergeant with boltpistol and CCW
- Vet with plasmagun x 3
- Vet with lasgun and vox-caster
- Vet with lasgun x5
SQUAD HAS FORWARD SENTRIES

Vet Squad C – 170pts
- Sgt. Harker
- Vet with flamer x 3
- Vet with shotgun x 6
SQUAD HAS DEMOLITIONS

Vet Squad D – 145pts
- Vet sergeant with shotgun and power fist
- Vet with meltagun x 3
- Vet with shotgun x 6
SQUAD HAS DEMOLITIONS

Fast Attack
Scout Sentinel Squadron – 105pts
- Scout sentinel with multilaser x 3

Scout Sentinel Squadron – 135pts
- Scout sentinel with missile launcher x 3

Rough Rider Squad – 120pts
- Rough rider sergeant with hunting lance, melta bombs and power weapon
- Rough rider with hunting lance and laspistol x 9

Last Edit: Nov 30, 2009 18:32:54 GMT -5 by Scarper

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 2, 2009 17:04:55 GMT -5

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Post by Scarper on Dec 2, 2009 17:04:55 GMT -5

Right, cheap incentive time. If you happen to be on the Roll Call list, and you give me some decent advice on this list, I'll rocket you up to next in the painting list after what I'm working on now!

I really need some advice on this please, it might be replacing my current list. This would mean moving a few requests around, and I just want to make sure it's feasible before I urine anyone off

I'd really appreciate any tips, even if they're small. Cheers in advance, guys ;D

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 3, 2009 14:40:03 GMT -5

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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Dec 3, 2009 14:40:03 GMT -5

I would love to see this list played out.

I'm assuming that you will use Creed to have the Rough Riders given the outflank rule.

The only problem I see is that you don't have enough melta's in the group, but from the looks of it you plan on using a lot of these guys as a fire base instead of getting up close and personal.

Best advice I can give at this time is try out the list and let us know how it works.

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 3, 2009 17:48:23 GMT -5

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Post by genilyenovick on Dec 3, 2009 17:48:23 GMT -5

Although sentinels are walkers they are also vehicles. And they carry heavy weapons. So I think that they deffeat the pourpose of the list here.

Other that that I would have to see the list on the field much like the dude said in order to see how it works. I play test all of my ideas before i go ahead with it. If that means proxy against a good friend of mine i will do it that way. Let us know how it does.

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 3, 2009 20:19:05 GMT -5

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Post by Scarper on Dec 3, 2009 20:19:05 GMT -5

ssgtdude (M.I.A) - You're dead on with the Creed idea, and with the plan for a gunline and mobile element - good eye for tactics! I bet you'd be a scary player to face

genilyenovick - You're right, of course, but the list is an attempt to fit my fluff more than anything - a scavenger force constantly on the move and fighting a guerilla war. The sents are indeed vehicles, but I thought they'd be more adept at moving through ruins and burnt out forests than tanks would, and can carry HWs without being too encumbered. The title of the thread was really to just get people to read the damn thing

Cheers for the tip though - I'm planning on getting a game in as soon as I can, and I'll let you know how it works out.

Any other tips would, as always, be wonderful!

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 4, 2009 15:46:35 GMT -5

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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Dec 4, 2009 15:46:35 GMT -5

Dec 3, 2009 20:19:05 GMT -5 Scarper said:

ssgtdude (M.I.A) - You're dead on with the Creed idea, and with the plan for a gunline and mobile element - good eye for tactics! I bet you'd be a scary player to face

I'll take this as a compliment. A lot of the tournament players in the area test their lists out with me. Not so much as to see how well I play, but to test certain elements that they may see in a tournament.

Frankly, since I am also one of the few people who play an assault guard army with any kind of success they like the challenge as well.

One of the tournament players I have never beat, but at end game he is usually wiping sweat off his brow. Looking forward to winning against him some day. To do that, I have to hone my own tactics.

On the 16th of Jan there is a tournament so I think I may go and be a part of it just to see where I might place out with the big boys. I'm looking at doing a variation of RT's rolling thunder list.

A number of Valks
Penal legion
Chimera's
Hydras
and Straken of course.

Once I have the list fully tested out I'll let you guys know how I did.

Last Edit: Dec 4, 2009 15:48:32 GMT -5 by ssgtdude (M.I.A)

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 8, 2009 8:28:36 GMT -5

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Post by fatuous on Dec 8, 2009 8:28:36 GMT -5

Looks v interesting list to me, would love to see a pic of the whole army, must be huge!!!!!!

Only a couple of points. 1 of ur inf squads with a melta guns doesnt have a vox, I'd switch a vox around form another unit for the bring it down twin linking.

The vet squad with snipers........ not sure i'd bother with it, it is scroing, which is good, but a squad of hobbits would be better IMO, altho not scoring, u'd pay less for more snipers. If you dont like rattling models, u can proxy in guard snipers easily enough.

Maybe consider taking a second comapny command sqaud to be on the offensive, either more melta guns or plasma.

Looking v cool tho

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 8, 2009 11:52:30 GMT -5

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Post by Scarper on Dec 8, 2009 11:52:30 GMT -5

Thanks, fatuous! The squad with the meltagunner doesn't have a vox cause they're combining with other squad who do - it's a cheap way to save some points! I've never used ratlings myself, though I have a friend who loves the things. One hit seems to send them scampering off every time though...

Cheers for the tips! I'm planning on playing a slightly smaller version of this list in a month or so, will be sure to post a report!

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 8, 2009 18:05:15 GMT -5

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Post by mccaptain on Dec 8, 2009 18:05:15 GMT -5

A: False advertising in lame sauce
B: It worked though, so props for that...
C: I wouldn't put more than one Demo Charge per special weapon team. I would spread the love around so you don't lose all of them to one round of enemy shooting.

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 11, 2009 7:18:32 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 7:18:32 GMT -5 just a note, a couple of storm trooper squads, 5 men, 2xMG's, could fit with the theme and also help with the anti-armor thing.

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 13, 2009 6:58:39 GMT -5

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Post by Scarper on Dec 13, 2009 6:58:39 GMT -5

That's good advice, thank you!
mccaptain - that's definitely true. Might switch around the SW squads so that it's one with 2xflamer and a demo, and one with 2x melta and the same. p.s. it's not totally false advertising, right? I have no tracked / wheeled vehicles and none of my troops carry any HWs

@axiomatic - Thanks, that's a nice idea too! I might have to make them 'ambush troopers' or something to fit, but it's something to bear in mind. Cheers! ;D

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Crazy times! No heavy weapons or vehicles 2000pts Dec 15, 2009 21:21:15 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 21:21:15 GMT -5

I think the snipers are a bit out of place...I would just give these guys flamers. I'm a fan of carapace over the other doctrines I just like the more, in general, survivable, especially for the meltagun squads, but your body count should help with that problem so it's your choice on that idea

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