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Post by colshark on Feb 29, 2012 13:52:22 GMT -5
Hi all
I have only recently started an IG army.
I am wondering what is a good tactic to use for an 850 point ironman tournament. This is basically a random draw where an army must stay alive the longest.
I am able to field about 50 infinity, 3 full command units, 2 sentinels, 3 heavy wep teams, 4 chimeras, 2 Russ and a valkarie. What setup would have the best chance of lasting? My army is magnetized so can easily configure infantry and tanks to any option available.
Game is Saturday so any help would be apreciated
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Post by Empirespy on Feb 29, 2012 15:56:18 GMT -5
HQ
Commissar Yarrick
Troops
Infantry Platoon
Infantry Squad x3
Platoon Command Squad
Chimera
Infantry Platoon
Infantry Squad x2
Platoon Command Squad
Chimera
Fast Attack
Scout Sentinel with Autocannon
Scout Sentinel with Autocannon
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Demolisher
850, yarrick is hard to kill, although may be a point sink, Demolisher can take on any heavy vehicles, whilst the autocannons can take out transports. Lots of men to soak up punishment, it should work well in a last stand tournament, but my list building skills aren't amazing, but it's a start. I'm sure some one like Kras will be along soon, he could make a list that would be perfect for you.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Feb 29, 2012 17:19:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the igmb!! I think you should use those chimera's. You can keep your guys alive longer in them. Set 2 of them up with multilaser and heavy bolter, and 2 with multilaser and heavy flamer. so you got the strength 6 shots for high toughness things and light armor, 2x heavy bolter for strength 5 shots and ap4 for when you end up facing eldar or something, and 2 heavy flamers for when you face hordes. Use the scout sentinels for tying up enemy squads that can do much damage, to allow you to respond to other threaths first. As for survivability, you can always use vets with the forward sentries doctrine to up their cover saves, but don't rely on them when you mount the rest of the army in chimera's, as they will be the only target for anti personal fire. something like this: company command squad 4x plasma gun, chimera with multi laser/ heavy bolter vet squad 3x melta ,chimera with multi laser/ heavy flamer vet squad 3x melta, cimera with multi laser/ heavy flamer vet squad 2x plasma, 1x melta ,chimera with multilaser/ heavy bolter 2xsentinel with autocannon valkyrie with multiple rocket pods exactly 850 points, and gives you 4 tanks, a flyer, 35 men and 2 walkers. Keep everything safe in the tanks, and strike when you can do lots of damage and little return fire. Surviving with squishy guardsmen is always hard, so don't hesitate to fall back if you see odds are stacking up, and send in the valk and heavy flamers  |
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Post by emptyhat on Feb 29, 2012 19:48:59 GMT -5
With 50 infinity your endurance will no doubt outlast your opponent  A Russ might be expensive and die to a lucky hit but think of the pain it can pour on your enemies. |
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Post by Peter Cooman on Mar 1, 2012 6:44:55 GMT -5
Yeah but 50 men with no upgrades will not do much. Flashlights go pew pew and that's about it |
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Post by colshark on Mar 1, 2012 14:00:19 GMT -5
Thnx for help so far
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Post by Lord General Armstrong on Mar 1, 2012 23:20:18 GMT -5
Yeah but 50 men with no upgrades will not do much. Flashlights go pew pew and that's about it 140 lasgun shots with or without the addition bolt pistol will kill roughly 8 marines in one round of shooting, now thats a whole lot of diddly. Also I agree that Leman Russ Battle Tanks are your friends. |
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 2, 2012 8:17:22 GMT -5
If you're going for survivability the last thing you want to be lugging around are sentinels.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Mar 3, 2012 19:01:06 GMT -5
Yeah but 140 lasgun shots do no diddly against land raiders And asking those marines nicely will not make them come out @ RT: I think sentinels are quite good for survival. If you can plant them in an enemy squad that can't take me out, you could buy yourself time to mop up the rest of the bunch or get a charge going. For example when orks charge, they get their furious charge, but when you can tie them up with a sentinel, you can charge in yourself with for example a power blob platoon. It's a great way of creating equal chances. |
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 4, 2012 11:13:21 GMT -5
Except if the Orks have a power Klaw, which is pretty much standard issue for most Ork mobs since 3rd Ed, in which case they'll peel the Sentinel open. Or they'll just Rokkit it into oblivion.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Mar 4, 2012 14:33:59 GMT -5
Ok orks were a bad example But if you can hold up a squad of dire avengers and save your platoon from a bladestorm you'll know you made the right choice. Anyway sentinels are cool, so you should take one even it gets pummeled into oblivion. |
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Post by DadCRO on Mar 4, 2012 16:47:43 GMT -5
Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 7, 2012 5:56:06 GMT -5
But if you can hold up a squad of dire avengers and save your platoon from a bladestorm you'll know you made the right choice. If your platoon is not in cover then you're clearly doing something wrong. Also, Dire Avengers are Eldar. Eldar are not a threat. Dark Eldar are, but Craftworld Eldar haven't had a codex update for too long to be a serious danger (so long as you don't mind fighting the manical bobsled army. |
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Post by Peter Cooman on Mar 7, 2012 6:59:59 GMT -5
Yeah because when you are playing tactical inept commanders they leave their fast wave serpent with their avengers on the good side of cover  So you made your point clear, you don't like sentinels. Fair enough, i personally like one of the little buggers, especially with a searchlight to light up necrons and such. All a matter of personal preference i guess |
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Post by krasimirova on Mar 7, 2012 8:24:55 GMT -5
"If your platoon is not in cover then you're clearly doing something wrong."
Sometimes ones hand can be forced in these matters, the cover you where using might have just been blow away, the enemy might have relocated etc etc..
I'd have to agree with petercooman123, if you brought a Sentinel in the first place, then having it tie up a unit of Dire Avengers from Blade storming your platoon would be a perfect use of that sentinel, since the DA's can't touch it in CC anyway..
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Mar 7, 2012 13:37:19 GMT -5
Captain Obvious' guide to winning with Eldar:
KILL EVERYTHING WITH AN AV VALUE FIRST!!!
ESPECIALLY WALKERS!
This applies equally to the Dark and Rainbow verities.
So when fighting against them remember that armor is your friend, if you can keep them from destroying it before they close in you will be in a good position to win.
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