Dator Pax Imperator Cadian guardsmen UPDATE 14-4

[gearboxx]

Too long since i painted the models on this first post so here's a small update on the army and the projects running.. just to get your attention once more and some decent c&c on the latest project..










and the newest project:

the emperors agressosrs, the new definition of shock troops!!



any c&c on the stands and all is welcome, they are just tagged together to see if the poses are any good.. i will be looking at the details and the seams when putting them together for real..


god i love flamethrowers....


(EDIT)

I've been looking at all the great models for a while now and decided to share my own. I'm hoping to get some constructive advice about the painting i am flopping on them, since playing the game is not really my goal. I just like to fiddle with the miniatures, making and painting them and putting them on display..

This also means that my collection is not in any way table-top-complete or anything, i just made a habit of buying the models that i found looking good.. with a preference for anything big and armored (got a stormlord lying around waiting to be build).

The main thing i really hope on getting some feedback on is my rough rider. i bought this model of ebay (what not), really like it but i can't find out what it is.. hope you guys like it and i will try to update as often as i can but a 1year old, full time job, evening school and a wife kinda take up most of the time


So.. there it is...

(EDIT)

[macknight]

The biker is a conversion, decent table top quality, need some TLC on the tanks, the new GW washes would do a nice job on your models.

[gearboxx]

i know, converted the back end, not sure what tlc is, but i haven't used washes yet...isn't diluted paint considered wash or should i just go out and get the real stuff?

[Adkenpachi]

Tender Loving Care.

And you definatly need to give them a wash buy some devlan mud and bask in your own glory.

[gearboxx]

will do there's enough love to go around when it comes to armored chariots devlan mud being wash or do i need to dilute it 1:20?

[macknight]

Dec 10, 2012 16:58:04 GMT -5 gearboxx said:

i know, converted the back end, not sure what tlc is, but i haven't used washes yet...isn't diluted paint considered wash or should i just go out and get the real stuff?

TLC=tender loving care , thin paint is not the same as washes, you should definitely get the wash colors respectively to the colors that you use, for sure the brown and the black.

[gearboxx]

will do.. wonder what it will do..there's a first for everything right?

here's a wip of the bike


the other dude being a basilisk crew member, just slightly altered his arm so he is leaning on his knee rather than holding on to his gun.

[Empirespy]

Tender loving care, something the guard most definitely don't need.

It all looks good, washes will make them seam more real, and generally look smarter, as for using dilute paint, that's what I do, but the consistency of washes tends to be thicker, so if you do get the real deal, add a drop of water into the mix, otherwise you might flood the models.

[Adkenpachi]

I tend to slap on a load of wash then kinda... Dry brush it to thin it whilst its on the model.

[3ff3ct]

Wash will then end up on the brush, which you could have used...

I dilute washes about 2:3 with water; if it's not enough, stick some more on! I ruined a couple of models when I first used them, and have learnt from that mistake.

A nice force by the way! As mentioned, a few extras will soon bump up the quality, although a fully painted army to any standard is always beter that a squad of glorious miniatures amongst a sea of grey plastic....

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

By Rough Rider, you mean the guy on the bike, yes? That bike appears to be an old school--like from the days of Rogue Trader of 1988 to 1993 or so--bike model. I remember that Space Marines had bikes very similar to those at the time, but the Imperial Guard may also have had bikers at the time as well... From looking at the WIP shots, I'm thinking it may actually be a Guard biker, if the rider parts are original to the model, as it sort of looks like an old school Guardsman. Pretty rare model!

[gearboxx]

planned to buy some wash today but life got in the way of plans
gonna try tomorrow or else I'm just gonna order some on line. (I like going to the shop over just ordering on line)

3ff3ct; So it might be wise to try it on a few infantry men before using it on my ... more detailed units..

@trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four, the body was with the bike when i got it but the back part looked like it needed something added to it, not sure if i was missing some bitz..
Found a guy on a dutch guard forum who has 3 of these bikes, he also does not know what they are and just buys them off eBay.
www.gwhobby.net/forum/index.php?topic=15218.0

he copied his post off a English forum so the text is in English.

i think the little models would look better with a layer of clear coat, or do you guys think that would just make them too shiny?

and does the wash also work with tanks as they have less detail for the wash to get into. (i know, just get some and try it but it took me a lot of time to get them painted like this and I'd hate to fornicate em up trying out something)

also, thanks for all the feedback

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

Yeah, the bikes on that page appear to also be the old school bikes, but with the riders replaced with ones made from the venerable RTB-01 plastic Space Marine box set, also an old, old school kit from the days of Rogue Trader.

[gearboxx]

well,been a while,haven't bought the wash yet, but taking the miss shopping tomorrow and there IS a GW in that town so should be good..

but in the meanwhile, been working on another biker.. it's a bit.. unorthodox but i hope to get some feedback on him..

just for the record.. the rocket will sit on the back but the glue wasn't dry just yet..









hope you enjoy..

p.s. looking at pic 4 it looks like i butchered a whole lot of guardsmen to make that rider

[gearboxx]

YAY! got some Drakenhof nightshade, nuln oil shades (black and blueish), guilliman blue glaze, just to see what it does, it was there for the taking and some 'ardcoat, to give some shine to the guardsmen... and now.. off to experiment.. will keep you informed on the progress

[Ponen19]

That bike looks like a mix between the chopper from Halo 3 and a light cycle from Tron. Slap some LEDs on that and go for the full effect.

[Adkenpachi]

That missile thing on the back ruins your latest bike, if that wasnt on there and it was coloured it would be AWSOME!

[gearboxx]

Ponen19, had that covenant bike from halo in mind so i'm glad it worked out ..

@adkenpaci, do you have some other suggestion for the back then? i agree the missile is a bit oversized but the guy can't fight chaos with tough looks alone and he kinda needs both hands to steer

[AshotNINJA]

bin that missle launcher, its far too large, and slap on some forward facing stubbers to the front forks, all the weight is at the front, so it seems natural to put the weaponary at the front.

[gearboxx]

YAY! ordered some bit-box from the ebay-s after this last comment and got it yesterday
included lot's-o-parts, bunch of heavy weapons teams and a sentinal, plus some left over's on sprue's from emperor-knows-what kind of heavy armor :-P

only got around to base coating and painting parts of the leman russ in the mean while, will get some picts up soon and will try to figure out what spare parts of the sentinal can be best used to arm the bike

[gearboxx]

As promised, a new setup for the bike, hope you guys like this better i just gs-ed the parts on to see how they would look so they are a bit crooked. i found the taillight on some building sprue so i'm not sure what is was supposed to be but i think it looks good.





Thinking, to add some traction th the front tire, to take some tracks from a basilisk or some, throw them in boiling water and see if i can get them to fold over the front tire...anyone ever tried something like that? i heard barrels can be bend like this so why not .. i think it would look great .

And a wip of my salvaged leman russ



That's it for now, eager to hear your comments

[gearboxx]

And an update! finished my Leman Russ and found out it's a piece of crap but i got to test a few techniques so i'm not too depressed about it. so in commenting, don't mention the quality of the tank, just the painting ok? did some shading/highlighting on the barrel which i think look great, and some árd coating on the whole tank, that showed all the flaws.... bit it makes the colors stand out and look great







and i also tried some wash and glaze on the other bike,





think it looks pretty cool, one or 2 more glazes on the blue should do it..



would like some reviews and comment...

[gearboxx]

after a lot of issues that had to be taken care of, let's resume building this army got myself a nice little desk and hope to be able to finish this last bask so i can try to convert the last one i got in the box to a griffon as seen somewhere on this forum ..

also can't wait to try some more shading and glazing but afraid my basic painting skills deteriorated rapidly over the last few months..

so for now, all i got for you guys are some good intentions and (for the fun of it..) a look at my very own workshop

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[gearboxx]

just a quick question,

i've been trying this on my bask, but i am in doubt if i am getting the sequence right.. is it basic colors, washing, highlighting, drybrushing, glazing/ardcoating? i get the feeling it makes the drybrushing useless...

will post pictures soon, at least the washing is working out great! i can see all the detail on the bags and the leather parts..

[gearboxx]

So.. i got the most parts of my last bask painted, with all the washes and ard coats i could find and i think it looks good..
also added a picture of my next projects, looking to build a small SM support chapter but cant deside between iron fists or white scars..
got one bask left but i'm gonna make a griffin out of him as i have seen somewhere around here

anyway, i hope to get some comment, all is welome, as long as it's usefull..please name each error i made in your opinion so i can work on it. keep it civil and i can take anything



this one is standing next to a non wash/ non ardcoat bask and in front of a LR, explaning the turret



really hope to get some response..

p.s.

trouble with the SM is i like the color of the white scars but i like the fluff of the iron fists.. but then again, both are light coloured and hard to paint...