Tallarn 3rd 750 points

[Aeon]

After many years playing Cadians I've decided to make a more unique Imperial Guard army, and I've decided to play Tallarn, because they're difficult to acquire, so it's kind of a hunt to track down what I need, and should be very interesting to paint.

Before I buy things, I often plan out lists so I know exactly what to buy.

Here is my 750 points Tallarn army list, based around their fluff of being a fast moving, hard hitting raider army. I would like you, my brothers and sisters, to help point out any details I may have missed, find any flaws in the list, while not suggesting anything that would ruin the fluff of the Tallarn (no vendettas, no storm troopers or carapace armor, and definitely NO PLATOONS, because I'm not rich enough to buy whole platoons of metal tallarns ahaha)

Tallarn 3rd Regiment
750 points

H.Q:
Captain Al'Rahem & Retinue
Plasma pistol
Vox caster, Flamer
- Chimera (65)
Multi laser and Heavy flamer, Dozer blades
total: 155

Troops:
10x Tallarn Veterans
Vox caster (5), 2x Melta guns
- Chimera
Multi laser and Heavy bolter, Dozer blades
Total: 155

Troops:
10x Tallarn Veterans
Vox caster (5), 2x Melta guns
- Chimera
Multi laser and Heavy bolter, Dozer blades
Total: 155

Fast Attack:
Hellhound
Dozer blades
total: 135

Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Exterminator
Heavy bolter sponsons , Dozer blades, Hull Heavy flamer
total: 155

I tried to kit out my CCo as best I could to represent Al'Rahem, but couldn't fit the power sword, or that fancy masterwork +1S power sword into such a small points list, but I did get his plasma pistol since he'll be shooting way more often than assaulting. At higher points values, I'll add in a powered something or other to represent the Claw of the Desert Tiger (his sword).

Unit purposes:

CCO: Follows closely behind the other 2 mechanized squads and uses the Chimera's nifty command vehicle special rule to give orders while keeping Al'Rahem and his retinue safe, popping off shots from the top hatch and using the flamer to repel assaults (d3 auto hits!!) The plasma pistol is there in case I run into something really nasty at low points, like somebody trying to be sneaky and taking a unit of terminators, or an enemy hQ with a 2+ save

I'll mostly be using the Bring it Down order on the veterans, so they can go armor hunting, and when all the armor threats are nuetralized, FRF, SRF or Fire On My Target

2x Veteran Squads: Obviously, they'll be killing armor with those melta guns. I gave the chimeras heavy bolters instead of heavy flamers so they can shoot while they're on their way to get within melta range, though I normally prefer heavy flamers since they're free and can be really really nasty

Hellhound: My very fast, very effective answer to mobs of infantry, or any infantry really. I like the idea of using light vehicles in this army as opposed to a lot of russes, and I have never really used hellhounds before, but I know that a long range S6 flamer template is my kind of party. I figure that while the veterans focus on killing armor, I can wash everything down with promethium from 24" away (or whatever the hell it's range is. Too tired to check now)

Leman Russ Exterminator: Every Guard army has to have a russ, unless you're Elysians, and then you don't, because no. All of the NO! Since the demolisher and battle tank variants are so underpowered this edition, I decided on the exterminator with heavy bolters. I really normally prefer the punisher for anti infantry, but since my veterans will be up close, I wanted something with reletively high strength and super good range to be covering their advance. 4 TL shots for popping transports, small fragile units like Devastators or gene stealer squads (really tired, those are the first 2 things that came to mind, so I'm rolling with it). The heavy bolters are there for added fire support, and the heavy flamer is there because I love flamers, especially when they're heavy.

So I've got 4 good anti tank guns, with a metal box to protect all of them. I've got an officer with a termie-killing pistol and some fire, with a metal box that can shoot more fire. A hellhound for long range SCIENCE! (which, to those of you who haven't been here long, means FIRE!), and an autocannon, heavy bolter gunwagon with 14 armor to draw fire away from the veterans and to pop those pesky Av10, 11 and 12 vehicles as well as target enemy HQs

Thoughts? Comments? Recommendations? I think this list will do psychotically well against a much smaller army. I have plenty of high strength weapons and good Ballistic Skill all around. And where my BS is lower, I have SCIENCE to make up for it

[nebraska172]

I like this! You always seem extremely thorough with your thoughts. I wouldn't mind reading some battle reports with this setup in it.


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[gamma016]

I live making fluff lists and the idea of buying hard to find models just for fluff is pretty cool. I have a few things you may want to consider for your list though.

1) You cannot receive orders from inside a chimera. So your CCS and veterans don't need vox casters unless you plan on jumping them out of their tanks to melt face.

2) Maybe consider the ISB or "tauox" for your vets. They already can reroll dangerous tests and come with an autocannon. You'd save some more points and it might make your troops a bit faster.

3) You have no rough riders!! I'd try and find a way to add in some rough riders with meltas for anti tank and then you could switch your vets to plasma for hunting MC's and heavy infantry.

[tallarncommander]

The list looks solid. Gamma makes some good points.

In lieu of rough riders, if you have the models, 2 or 3 scout or armored sentinels could replace the hellhound. Actually armored sentinels would fit really nicely with this list because they’d extend your AV12 saturation even further—and the new IG Codex made armored sentinels dirt cheap points-wise (but not money-wise). It’s not that the Tallarns wouldn’t use hellhounds (they would), but Tallarns would certainly include sentinels or rough riders (since those units fit their fast, raiding fluff). Plus your chimeras and exterminators are already in your list to tackle enemy infantry so you can kit out the sentinels to tackle armor with lascannons and the armored sentinels can tie up the enemy in close combat (something the hellhound can't do).

By the way, don’t give up on eventually collecting enough metal Tallarn infantry models for a Tallarn platoon or 2. And you can do it on the cheap too. The trick is to keep your eyes peeled on E-Bay. I bought most of my Tallarns back in the early 2000s for a little over $3 a model. However, in the last 4 years, I’ve been able to snag 3 or 4 additional Tallarn squads on E-Bay for about $3.00 a model (which is what you’d pay for metal Tallarns from GW mail order and its about the same plastic Cadians at your local gaming store). The trick is weekly monitoring of E-Bay once the current fervor caused by the release of the new 'dex dies down (it looks like Tallarns are selling higher than normal right now).

I especially like the Exterminator in your list since the Imperial Armor book (volume I) from Forge World notes that IG recon units often take Exterminators because (unlike most Russ variants) they can keep up with the lighter, faster recon walkers, chimeras, and salamanders, but they can pack a punch should the detachment make contact.

Good luck!


Tallarn Commander

IG, “We are many. They are few.”

[cdrwattz]

Commander Aeon,
I've got a 750 point mini tourni coming up so I've been searching the web for ideas. I gotta say, I really like this list. It's simple but really cool. You've obviously put a lot of thought into it. I can see you posted it some time ago so I was wondering if you'd be able to let me know how you went running it? I'm in the position to field your exact list bar the exterminator. Any battle report?

Cdr. Wattz

[Aeon]

Man, I was absent for so long, I never saw any of these posts. I'm sorry, guys.

I ended up selling part of my guard army and wasn't able to run this list, but I am still open to testing it for those of you who are curious about it. I can just use vassal

It's been several months since this post, and I was just getting back into the hobby. I have played many many games recently and have gotten the hang of the game again and I am winning more than I'm losing at this point

By the way, i want to mention that the chimera has the command vehicle special rule, which allows orders to work while embarked