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Post by Melissia on Feb 14, 2011 8:11:32 GMT -5
FKM: So what would you suggest the two upgrades cost?
Jarms: It's not obscuring the cockpit any more than the nose gun on a chopper obscures its cockpit.
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Post by F.K.M on Feb 14, 2011 16:46:42 GMT -5
Well good upgrades are generally 30 points or so. Maybe if it was 40 pts it would be good. 50 pts would probably be too much. I don't know what each should cost but i'm figuring the inferno cannon would probably be cheaper than the melta cannon. Possibly 30 for the inferno cannon and 45 for the melta cannon. It's really up to you though.
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Post by Melissia on Mar 31, 2011 13:06:41 GMT -5
Okay, so the walker choices are between the Paladin and Malachim. Either way it's taking the Malachim title, as Paladin is taken by the Grey Knights now.
I'm really leaning towards the lighter one myself.
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Post by F.K.M on Apr 1, 2011 20:02:24 GMT -5
Any other suggestions? I haven't been in this thread for ages so some new ideas would be nice.
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Post by Melissia on Apr 1, 2011 20:28:48 GMT -5
There's not gonna be many new units. Really, aside from maybe one more ecclesiarchal unit and finishing up the ones that have already been outlined, and finishing the special characters... this is basically finished.
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Post by F.K.M on Apr 1, 2011 23:46:45 GMT -5
Well that's fine as i haven't really had any new ideas for the sisters of battle in forever. I still really want to see artificer armored elite troops or some faithful unit or something in here. I'd rather not see sisters in terminator armor as that'd just seem stupid. Maybe i'll think of something given time. Some special super pure sisters unit would be nice or some holy martyr hero. Maybe having a holy mary type character would be cool even if it's just in the lore. A unit with 'feel no pain' like sisters repentia would be alright and give them inv. saves maybe. Faith powers for buffing would be cool.
Perhaps something similar to pain tokens of dark eldar or any boosts from guard or eldar. Perhaps for zealotry and such they get things. I want to say 'feel no pain' but that'd be too similar to the dark eldar though it'd make sense. You seem to hate the idea of martyrdom but i don't mind it. Like how about every time sisters take losses in a squad and have to take a morale check and pass they get some boosts to close combat, become fearless, get 'feel no pain', fleet, more attacks, etc (possibly roll a d6 and apply the results like combat drugs except they might stack).
Wargear options that really show the purity of the sisters would be nice and stuff for smiting their enemies. Maybe an item that scares enemies with the purity of the sisters or the emperor. Maybe we could have their enemies feel the pain the emperor's been feeling for millennia. Perhaps a light that shines on their enemies burning into their soul or something.
I might come up with more ideas later but these are just ideas for things that aren't units. I honestly think the morale check for losses boost is really good. I think black templars have something similar where they move forward with every successful morale check.
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Post by Melissia on Apr 17, 2011 9:04:40 GMT -5
Renamed Paladin to Knight to stop it from conflicting with the Paladin in the GK codex. I corrected several entries in the wargear section (crusader sword and shield, power spear, sarissa) that were either missing, had typos, or were not the most recent version of the item.
Knight Crusader Heavy Bolter 2 Eviscerators
Knight Defender Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter Eviscerator
With a third option like thus:
Knight Destroyer: Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter Heavy Bolter
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Post by F.K.M on Apr 29, 2011 18:55:44 GMT -5
Sounds a bit like the knight mini titans but i don't know if that's what you're going for. Luckily for you Matt Ward won't be raping the SoB codex with a big creepy grin on his face.
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Post by Vice-Shogun Himura on May 19, 2011 15:57:17 GMT -5
Melissia, Nice work i hope the GW codex is have as good and flavourful.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on May 19, 2011 17:42:37 GMT -5
The idea of 2 twin-linked inferno cannons is pretty sick. Considering twin linked flamers hit automatically and actually hit everything twice as is you essentially hit a bunch of models 4 times. That could easily decimate an entire squad or group of boyz by itself. not true, twin linked templates just let you re-roll wounds, therefore your still only hitting each one a maximum of twice. Sounds a bit like the knight mini titans but i don't know if that's what you're going for. Luckily for you Matt Ward won't be raping the SoB codex with a big creepy grin on his face. except the Knights have a single melee weapon and a cannon. with obviously different variations on the type of cannon. but calibre wise your looking at closer to the Primary Weapon system of a Leman Russ variant, rather than Squad Heavy Weapons.
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Post by F.K.M on May 19, 2011 22:46:29 GMT -5
The idea of 2 twin-linked inferno cannons is pretty sick. Considering twin linked flamers hit automatically and actually hit everything twice as is you essentially hit a bunch of models 4 times. That could easily decimate an entire squad or group of boyz by itself. not true, twin linked templates just let you re-roll wounds, therefore your still only hitting each one a maximum of twice. Doesn't make it any less insane against hordes.
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Post by Melissia on Jun 2, 2011 18:54:35 GMT -5
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Jun 3, 2011 10:49:32 GMT -5
This thread is exellent, great work!
You could make it Chevalier rather than Knight.
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Post by F.K.M on Jun 3, 2011 20:31:11 GMT -5
I like canoness emelia stone the most. fornicate is she powerful! They all have master crafted heavy bolters? That's disgusting. Also the pinning gets a -1 modifier for every dead enemy. Wow. If they're even still alive afterward. I'm guessing space marine would live it though.
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Post by Melissia on Jul 24, 2011 20:33:40 GMT -5
Final reworking of Celestians, hopefully, with an idea at the bottom:
Celestian Squad Points: 85 Celestian Statline: WS 4, BS 4, S 3, T 3, W 1, I 4, A 1, LD 9, SV 3+ Celestian Statline: WS 4, BS 4, S 3, T 3, W 1, I 4, A 2, LD 10, SV 3+ Type: Infantry Comosition: 1 Sister Superior, 4-9 Celestians Wargear: Power Armor, Bolt Pistol, CCW Bolter w/Sarissa, Frag/Krak Grenades Special Rules: Holy Hatred, Adepta Sororitas Transport: Rhino, Repressor, Immolator, Dropship * May add up to 5 more squad members at 14 pts each * Entire squad may exchange their chainswords for Bolters w/Sarissas for free.
* Up to two Celestians may replace their basic weapon (CCW or bolter) with: * * Bolt Pistol and Brazier of Holy Flame: +10 pts * * Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon: +10 pts * * Inferno Pistol and Chainsword: +15 pts * * Plasma Pistol and Chainsword: +15 pts * * Power Spear: +10 pts * * Combiflamer w/Sarissa: +10 pts * * Combimelta w/Sarissa: +15 pts * * Combistake-launcher w/Sarissa: +10 pts * * Flamer: +5 pts * * Meltagun: +10 pts * * Storm Bolter w/Blessed Ammunition
* One Celestian may additionally replace her basic weapon (CCW or bolter) with: * * Eviscerator: +20 pts * * Heavy Bolter: +10 pts * * Heavy Flamer: +10 pts * * Multi-Melta: +15 pts * * Neural Whips: +15 pts * * Power Spear: +10 pts
* The Celestian Superior may replace Bolt Pistol, CCW, and/or Bolter w/Sarissas with the following: * * Bolter: Free * * Brazier of Holy Fire: +10 pts * * Combi-Flamer: +10 pts * * Combi-Melta: +15 pts * * Combi-Plasma: +15 pts * * Combi-Stake Launcher: +15 pts * * Eviscerator: +20 pts * * Inferno Pistol: +15 pts * * Plasma Pistol: +10 pts * * Power Spear: +15 pts * * Power Stake: +20 pts * * Power Weapon: +10 pts * * Storm Bolter w/Blessed Ammunition: +10 pts
* The Celestian Superior may purchase Meltabombs for +5 pts. * The Celestian Superior may purchase Digital Weapons for +5 pts. * The Squad may purchase Meltabombs for +5 pts per model. * One member with a basic weapon (chainsword or bolter) may upgrade to be an Imagifier for 20 pts
The idea: Allow the entire squad to purchase power swords / power spears if no other special weapons were purchased, giving them a sort of ancient legionnaire feeling.
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Post by Jackal-0311 on Jul 25, 2011 1:25:20 GMT -5
You've been hard at work, nice stuff.
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Post by Melissia on Jul 25, 2011 21:46:37 GMT -5
Ugh, aparently I copy-pasted twice.
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Post by Lord General Armstrong on Dec 12, 2011 4:29:15 GMT -5
Toying around with an idea of a modified sentinel design for a Sororitas walker. Visually the design would be something akin to a heavy sentinel, with one "arm" on the nose with eviscerator attached, and a weapon on either side of the hull. The legs and hull would be more bulky, as the legs need increased strength to carry the weight while maintaining speed, which also adds slightly to the level of armor it has... not at the level of dreadnaught armor, but enough to make it a viable combat walker. Its bulk also helps it carry the ammunition for its dual weapons. Points: 90 Rules: Walker Armor: F12 S11 R10 Stats: Bs4, Ws4, S5, I3, At1 Equipment: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight Fire Support Pattern (+0): Heavy bolter on either side (TL Heavy Bolter), eviscerator on the arm (adds +1 S10 chainfist attack). Options: Replace Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter with the following: -- Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer (+10) -- Twin-Linked Multi-Melta (+30) Assault Pattern (+25): Two eviscerators (one arm on either side, adds +2 chainfist attacks), one nose-mounted heavy bolter Options: Replace Heavy Bolter with the following: -- Heavy Flamer (+5) -- Multi-Melta (+15) It's purely an experimental idea, the codex is almost done, so I dunno if I want to throw it in. On Dakka, it was suggested that I try to create a sort of MBT Walker, to replace the LR Vengeance. Here's my attempt at such. If it were to be put in, it would replace the LR Vengeance, which would be removed from the army list. I am not sure if I want to do this, but it is a good thought experiment. The basic concept for the looks of this this walker is the Battletech Rifleman, but with feet closer to power armor boots, a slightly more rounded surface somewhat mimicking the feel of Sororitas power armor, and no radar dish on top. The Purgatus Rocket System is on the bumps on either side of hte centrally located cockpit, the storm bolter is on the nose of the cockpit (essentially right in front of the sororitas pilot). It is a sort of MBT Walker, a walker dedicated to having large amounts of shooty instead of close combat. In order to enhance this feel, the vehicle does not have any DCCW, although it does have a natural strength of six (I did not see a reason why the vehicle wouldn't be able to do more damage in close combat than, say, a scout sentinel). In fluff, there's three options for the pilot: 1 is similar to that of a dread, that the pilots are aging veteran Sisters, linked into the machine in life support systems so that they can continue to serve the Emperor even as their bodies start to degrade due to old age... 2 is more in line with the titans, in that only those Sisters of strong enough willpower and sense of self can properly fuse with the machine. The final one is that in order to be able to pilot it, a Sister needs to undergo surgery to have neural implants similar to that of the Black Carapace of the Astartes or the Mind Impulse Unit used by the Mechanicus. This is also irreversible, but means that the Sisters can occasionally leave the machine (if it becomes too damaged for example, or while it is being repaired, or when they need to spend time praying and training, etc). Personally I'm leaning towards the third one. Points: 165 Rules: Walker Armor: F14 S12 R11 Stats: Bs4, Ws4, S6, I4, At1 Equipment: Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Twin Bolt Cannon, nose-mounted Storm Bolter -- Twin Bolt Cannon: R60", S7 AP4 Heavy 4 Twin-Linked Nay exchange Twin Bolt Cannon for: [Unsure on the price for these two]-- Two Twin-Linked Melta Cannons (as on Devil Dog) -- Two Twin-Linked Inferno Cannons (as on Hellhound) May purchase Purgatus Rocket System (30 pts) -- Purgatus Rocket System: R24", S5 AP5, Heavy 1 Large Blast, Twin-Linked, Ignores Cover Saves, One Use Only May upgrade nose Storm Bolter to Heavy Flamer or Heavy Bolter for +5 points. Something like this,
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Post by Melissia on Jun 28, 2012 22:08:24 GMT -5
I missed the post, but yes, that is a very good conversion for the first example. Though it'd have heavy bolters, heavy flamers, or multi-meltas, instead of lascannons, but still, I like it.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jun 28, 2012 22:26:34 GMT -5
Multi-melta that thing and we have lift-off.
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Post by Jackal-0311 on Jul 1, 2012 18:46:40 GMT -5
That thing is awesome!
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Post by Hookah, S.C. on Jul 2, 2012 11:43:31 GMT -5
Bloody hell that's good.
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Post by Melissia on Aug 11, 2012 21:05:02 GMT -5
I think I might end up dumping the Ecclesiarchy units from the codex and calling it just about finished. I have no enthusiasm for ecclesiarchy units.
I DO need to create an allies chart for this.
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