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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 8, 2010 15:24:21 GMT -5
So, yesterday I bought Island of Blood, and have decided to play both armies that come with the box (this means army three and four for Fantasy) so I decided that I would chronicle my army building as well as showing off some of the models I painted. So, without further adieu, I give you my first set of test models, a Swordsmaster and a Skaven Clanrat. I'm thinking of redoing the Swordsmaster, seeing as he isn't quite finished anyway. My original idea for the scale armor didn't quite pan out. I also need to get some new metallics, as the ones I have are either gone or close to it. But, I've got some more work to do: Should be fun. Watch here for updates.
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Post by Dedrier on Sept 8, 2010 15:30:30 GMT -5
They are coming along, hope to see them on the tabletop!
I like the Skaven paint job much better than the Elf. The armor doesn't look very good. The idea you had, while good for 40k, doesn't work in Warhammer as well.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 8, 2010 15:33:30 GMT -5
Yeah. In Fantasy, simplicity in your color scheme really is the best way to go. Especially when it comes to armor...
This model also reminds me why I hate painting metal armor.
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Post by robertm on Sept 8, 2010 15:43:19 GMT -5
I really like how the Skaven look like. How long do you think it'd take you to finish it all?
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 8, 2010 15:54:46 GMT -5
Once I have my scheme, and figure out how long it'll take. I can probably get a unit a day with batch painting...so a week/week and a half for the Ratmen. About the same for the High Elves.
It'll really depend on my work schedule as well.
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Post by robertm on Sept 8, 2010 16:06:21 GMT -5
Oh, well I hope you do well.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 8, 2010 16:12:01 GMT -5
I also have a bunch of side projects to do (mostly Guard, but I also need to get working on my Tau as well) so I might stagger what I paint when.
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Post by robertm on Sept 8, 2010 16:20:31 GMT -5
That reminds me. I still need to paint something from the Tau.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Sept 8, 2010 18:27:30 GMT -5
The only problem here is that neither of these armies fight for the Emperor.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 8, 2010 18:36:19 GMT -5
Touche.
I'll get some Guard pics up tonight. Working on my Russ right now actually.
Also, I reprimed the Swordsmaster, decided to start from scratch on the scheme.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 10, 2010 14:36:29 GMT -5
Update! So, I finally got a chance to go out and get some new metallic paints, and finally finished painting up the test model for the Swordsmaster. To say he looks a hell of a lot better is an understatement: Next on the list, Rat Ogres and a Lothern Seaguard.
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Post by Dedrier on Sept 10, 2010 14:58:30 GMT -5
Much, much better. The new paint job looks much better.
Hurrah for Rat Ogres!!
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 10, 2010 14:59:58 GMT -5
Thanks.
I pretty much decided that High Elves really do look best in their "traditional" color scheme. Which means a lot of bright colors, and white.
I hate painting white...almost as much as I hate painting armor.
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Post by Dedrier on Sept 10, 2010 15:01:31 GMT -5
Then use light blue instead. Pastels work well too.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 10, 2010 15:04:46 GMT -5
True.
But the Swordsmaster's are the guardians of the White Tower. It's only appropriate that they have the white robes.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Sept 10, 2010 15:10:20 GMT -5
White primer will make your life much easier.
Is that high elf wearing a mask? I like masks.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 10, 2010 15:14:43 GMT -5
Actually yes he is.
There's also one with a full helm, so you only see his eyes.
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Post by Dedrier on Sept 10, 2010 15:18:22 GMT -5
That makes sense. How the hell do some of these people get +3 armor with no helmet?
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Post by robertm on Sept 10, 2010 15:22:17 GMT -5
I really like it. I can't wait to see the whole army painted up.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 10, 2010 15:22:21 GMT -5
A wizard did it?
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 15, 2010 15:51:47 GMT -5
The white and silver looks amazing, Envoy. You can also get good results mixing normal colours with metallics. Blue and silver could work together well, a 50/50 mix. Scorched Brown and Shining Gold (or equivalent colours) make an excellent bronze or antique gold. Black and silver can make a dark pewter like effect.
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Post by F.K.M on Sept 15, 2010 18:21:55 GMT -5
That makes sense. How the hell do some of these people get +3 armor with no helmet? Maybe just because they wear really, really heavy armor. Chaos armor is imbued WITH CHAOS! Also dwarfs are supposed to have good armor too. I'm more annoyed by high elves being overpowered and i still don't get why chaos units are so good in intiative. My skaven should still have a higher initiative than you you know! Unless of course they're a daemon prince or imbued by slaanesh or something.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Sept 16, 2010 14:25:46 GMT -5
The white and silver looks amazing, Envoy. You can also get good results mixing normal colours with metallics. Blue and silver could work together well, a 50/50 mix. Scorched Brown and Shining Gold (or equivalent colours) make an excellent bronze or antique gold. Black and silver can make a dark pewter like effect. I generally layer my metallics, and I need to run some water through a couple (my shining gold for example) since they're a little thick. But I haven't thought of actually mixing them. I think I'll give it a shot when I get a chance to paint again, which should be tonight/tomorrow. That makes sense. How the hell do some of these people get +3 armor with no helmet? Maybe just because they wear really, really heavy armor. Chaos armor is imbued WITH CHAOS! Also dwarfs are supposed to have good armor too. I'm more annoyed by high elves being overpowered and i still don't get why chaos units are so good in intiative. My skaven should still have a higher initiative than you you know! Unless of course they're a daemon prince or imbued by slaanesh or something. Well, it's hard to get below a 4+ against shooting with infantry (barring units in full plate or Chaos armor with shields) so a lot of those units with 3+ or better are generally heavy cavalry. As for why Chaos Warriors are so good, they're the best of the best of the best. But you also pay out the nose for them, as opposed to the dirt cheap Clanrat, which still has a better initiative than a regular human. Not to mention Stormvermin, who match them in I, and are still around 2:1 for points cost.
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Post by Dedrier on Sept 16, 2010 14:39:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I just meant how do you get generally lower then a +5 or +6 with something that basic. A ton of blows go straight to the head.
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Post by F.K.M on Sept 16, 2010 15:02:20 GMT -5
Ugh chaos warriors are ridiculous. Good initiative so if you have a special device that goes against initiative tests they're fine. The have good toughness so toughness tests aren't as good against them even though the plague furnace and plague censer bearers are probably decent to use against them (i'd use censer bearers against chaos warriors but the lower initiative means my guys might all get killed before they do anything and they cost more points than warriors of chaos). They also have a decent strength, a good amount of attacks, and good armor.
Cavalry still have the most annoying armor though.
Plague magic is usually low in strength even if it goes through armor so you'd need 6's to wound or 5's which is usually not enough.
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