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Post by Trickstick on Jan 31, 2011 1:06:59 GMT -5
So as I was browsing the interwebs I came across this: www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/01/40k-rumors-summer-of-flyers.htmland this: www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290871Now I'm not usually one to get my hopes up about a rumor thread, even though they can be accurate to some degree. However, I have held the belief that the Hydra kit would be released ever since I heard of this whole "Summer of Fliers" thing. We got a manticore kit last time around, with Spearhead, so why not? This could all be wishlisting I suppose, as rumors never come with sources, but here is hoping.
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Post by Paradill on Jan 31, 2011 11:50:26 GMT -5
If this turns out to be true, I will be so very, very happy. Let's see the DE fad players down at the club when their guys are footslogging it across the table into my guns..
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 31, 2011 13:51:32 GMT -5
If true, I wonder if GW will sculpt it to look like the Forge World Hydra kit, or if they will do something else and make it look awful like the plastic Manticore kit?
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Post by Trickstick on Jan 31, 2011 13:56:04 GMT -5
I actually like the manticore kit, although it really needed a turret. That is probably the one thing stopping me getting one, you need to decide where it is firing in the movement phase. Not a big deal but it is one if the few models that is better rules wise to get from FW.
I am expecting something like a manticore with the planetstrike flak cannon mounted on the rear. I just hope that the barrels are longer, the PS ones are far too short to be an AA weapon.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 31, 2011 18:03:19 GMT -5
Sadly, I think the plastic Manticore is only surpassed in ugliness by the Stormraven Space Guppy. I still bought one, however I built it as a Deathstrike launcher instead, because I already have a Forge World Manticore--which I'm still waiting for a special order for magnets at a local hobby store to arrive so I can finish building and magnetizing the missiles. But yeah, I admit it, I'm in love with the models for the Forge World Manticore and Hydra. Even better was that when I ordered my Hydra, FW screwed up and sent me two kits!
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Post by Dedrier on Jan 31, 2011 19:07:54 GMT -5
I am feeling so vindicated right now! I said it would come out mid to late 2011 and guess what's happening! Boo yeah, now suck it Jackson!
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Post by emptyhat on Feb 1, 2011 2:46:41 GMT -5
The FW manticore is a pretty nice looking model but I think I prefer the GW one since it reminds me of playing Final Liberation.
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Post by Taisac on Feb 4, 2011 11:47:04 GMT -5
I´m about to buy 1 or 2 FW Hydras but now Im starting to doubt. Wait till July? Or get them now?
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 4, 2011 18:09:50 GMT -5
I´m about to buy 1 or 2 FW Hydras but now Im starting to doubt. Wait till July? Or get them now? I'd say get the FW Hydras now.
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Post by Taisac on Feb 6, 2011 13:16:49 GMT -5
I think Ill do, since there is tourney coming and really need them .
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Feb 6, 2011 13:58:09 GMT -5
I can see a Hydra kit, along with the DE aircraft, but I think that seeing the Thunderbolt in plastic is very wishful thinking, and the same goes for the other aircraft that Forgeworld usually makes.
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Post by Trickstick on Feb 6, 2011 19:08:47 GMT -5
I would say they will spread the love around and give other races some kind of fast skimmer. Seeing FW fliers is unlikely though, I doubt there will be many non-codex releases.
I would say get the FW hydras if it wasn't for the quality of them. From what I have seen, you need to do a lot of work to get those things table ready. It doesn't help that the moulds are both old and really popular. This means that you can get some badly warped pieces. The barrels are bad but easy to fix, the other pieces can be more annoying. However, FW will always look cool, so it is a hard choice.
We all know what rumors are like though, I'm prepared to wait and see but if you like the FW ones you should get them.
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Post by Soap on Feb 7, 2011 5:18:30 GMT -5
Well tbh I never thought they would bring the Baneblade into the plastic world, so maybe a nice Thunderbolt could make a show. I really really hope they bring the Hydra! I need a few to deal with the Space Guppy my mate is going to get!
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Post by jenburdoo on Feb 7, 2011 17:25:37 GMT -5
For the Hydra, I just converted one with the turret ring of an old Whirlwind.
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Post by Taisac on Feb 7, 2011 21:33:06 GMT -5
I just oredered two FW Hydras and Im praying for them to be in good conditions. I have one day to assemble them. I know I may regret when GW Hydras come out, maybe not who knows. I prefer them to look similar so there is a coherency in units, thats why Im not converting and would prefer to choose one model FW or GW. So for now my money is in FW. Can`t live another half year with thouse Eldar Skimmers flying around and last turn grabbing. Plus rhinnos are going to have a hard time.
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Post by Trickstick on Feb 7, 2011 21:41:28 GMT -5
The FW will probably look better. Resin is pretty easy to correct if you need to, there are plenty of guides out there. I'm guessing that the barrels will be bent but that is easy to fix. FW are pretty good about replacements if there are extreme problems.
If I had the money and gamed more I would probably get some too.
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Post by Taisac on Feb 8, 2011 10:56:24 GMT -5
Oh no! anything but not the barrels! Anyway if I cant correct them I shall ask for replacement.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 8, 2011 18:03:55 GMT -5
The simple fix for bent barrels--which I had to do with both of my FW Hydras--is to boil some water, pour it into a glass flat bottomed dish, and then place the pieces into the hot water for several minutes. After the resin has heated, use tongs to grab the piece by the back portion (where the ammo feeds are) and then hold it, perpendicular to the floor with the barrels hanging down. They should straighten out quite nicely. My Hydra barrels wound up pretty much perfectly straight after doing so.
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Feb 8, 2011 18:18:30 GMT -5
I made a hydra out of an Aegis Defense turret, and a bassie kit. It looks like something an ork would make. Which is okay, since it matches the rest of my army.
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Post by 3ff3ct on Feb 10, 2011 15:29:46 GMT -5
I can see a Hydra kit, along with the DE aircraft, but I think that seeing the Thunderbolt in plastic is very wishful thinking, and the same goes for the other aircraft that Forgeworld usually makes. Reds I agree with the thunderbolt sentiment, although I could see the Vulture being done in plastic. Apart from the main body, its pretty much straight from the valk kit.
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Post by pausenclown on Feb 11, 2011 4:26:56 GMT -5
The FW Hydra is actually the crappiest kit (I bought two of these just 1 month ago) I've ever gotten from ForgeWorld. It's not the design of the model, but the quality of the mold. When compared to younger products e.g. the Black Templar Venerable Dread, which I also own, the lack of detail and e.g. "roundness" of the kit's edges is evident.
In addition to this, the Hydra comes with the old chimera plastic kit. I'd presume the GW Hydra will be based on the current kit.
I believe the molds suffer wear & tear over time and the Hydra molds could be pretty used up by now.
So I'd vote to wait for the GW kit.
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Post by Taisac on Feb 11, 2011 9:32:10 GMT -5
Too late already having headaches with the kit. But its coolness compensates. Although the third Hydra is coming from GW.
And also whats your opinion on the barrells? Arent they too big for autocannons stats? bigger than a lascannon. Although they do have longer range. (60 cm) PD: got the new chimera chassis from GW.
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Post by pausenclown on Feb 12, 2011 17:05:57 GMT -5
I would not look at the Hydra Flak cannons as autocannons in the classical sense. I'd look at them as larger guns firing shrapnell ammunition at a high rate up into the skies. They just happen to have AC S/AP and #shots.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 13, 2011 7:56:21 GMT -5
IIRC the length of the barrels come from way back in the day when the Hydra was equipped with "long barrel autocannons". This has since been changed...
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Post by Soap on Feb 13, 2011 8:00:28 GMT -5
Also with the higher rate of fire you can justify the longer barrels as its a larger surface area to keep the weapon cool and prevent overheating witch in turn stops the weapon jamming!
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