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Post by havoc on Mar 4, 2011 14:24:44 GMT -5
take with salt as usual
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Post by Paradill on Mar 4, 2011 15:27:42 GMT -5
My necrontyr obsessed friend will be pleased. Goodbye "we'll be back" hello tech powers.
Paradill
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Post by Walrus on Mar 5, 2011 1:20:14 GMT -5
WBB irritates me to unbelievable lengths... thank the emperor its going (hopefully)
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Post by F.K.M on Mar 5, 2011 1:40:22 GMT -5
FNP is about the same as WBB just that WBB is a bit better and that you only get guys back after the combat is over. WBB makes more sense with necrons though somehow. They're like robotic undead. I wonder how FNP would work with it. We'd probably just increase the FNP to +3 or +2. Dear god some necrons may be as annoying to kill as plaguebearers after epidemius buffs them. You have to understand too though the necrons codex is pretty old. Once they get a new codex the model line will change and they'll get all these new units. I wouldn't doubt they'd get probably a couple new vehicles. We'll also probably see new infantry types. Imagine things with a +2 save. Maybe more monstrous creatures similar to tomb spyders. Hopefully the void dragon would be allowed in some form. His existence was leaking out or something. I dunno the idea of the void dragon or some other necron god sounds interesting though.
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Post by Gabriel Lupus on Mar 5, 2011 12:42:39 GMT -5
Personally I think FNP would be far better than WBB - the mechanic seems to work better/is fairer in game, and the way FNP works is quite explainable for Necrons - they don't get it against power weapons/AP1-2 weapons as it melts/destroys metals/armour, which is what a Necron is.
WBB always seemed a little over the top to me... and damned annoying...
Now I know the first instinct of most people (especially Necron players) is that FNP is pretty pathetic (especially compared with WBB) but think about it - everythying in the army benefitting from FNP... I think that's actually pretty scary in it's own right!
Though if they want to really play up the living metal/supposed nigh on invulnerability of Necrons, then something akin to what FKM suggests would probably be more accurate. Maybe WBB will remain but basically be a 3+ FNP?
But I do take this whole rumour with a rather large dose of 'salt' as they say...
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Post by F.K.M on Mar 16, 2011 21:15:30 GMT -5
Really i think +4 FNP would be ok even. I just mean FNP would be increased with a monolith, tomb spyder, res. orb or something to +3 or +2 in the most extreme cases. Either that or it would be re-rolled. Either way it's going to be pretty nasty. I'm wondering if necrons will get any characters. Sure they have c'tan gods as MC's but it might be nice to see a specialty hero or two or 6 . Hey if a main race has less than 4 heroes in it in a new or currently released codex i am totally unimpressed.
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 16, 2011 21:48:01 GMT -5
Thinking about the recent codexes I would not be that suprised to see named necrons in it. Most likely this will just be "Lord something of Kauruvara" who makes destroyers troops or something. However, you never know if they will do a named pariah. I know a lot of people would decry this as "unfluffy" but it wouldn't be so bad to have named necrons, maybe in the same way they have named tyranids.
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Post by Adam Selene on Mar 17, 2011 1:05:32 GMT -5
Thank the freakin Emperor, this will mean a 87% drop in crap jokes that everyone has hear a million times already, a feking miracle. Thinking about the recent codexes I would not be that suprised to see named necrons in it. Most likely this will just be "Lord something of Kauruvara" who makes destroyers troops or something. However, you never know if they will do a named pariah. I know a lot of people would decry this as "unfluffy" but it wouldn't be so bad to have named necrons, maybe in the same way they have named tyranids. More C'tan probably and if Just read the rules for draigo. Mary Sue ward at his best...the character beats up loads of daemonic champion and Mortarion and now he roams the warp where daemons are scared of him. gets his hand on wrighting the codex we will end up with a deceiver that can butfek a titan, with fluff along the lines of it likes taking strowls into the warp and forcing all the chaos gods to kiss and make up, please oh please can we leave the known C'tans the way they are.
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Post by F.K.M on Mar 17, 2011 4:07:28 GMT -5
I would be happy if they gave necrons a more egyptian look possibly. They already have monoliths and a few egyptian looking things already. Either keep them as robot undead or give them an egyptian undead feel. That's my opinion on that matter. Btw i've seen some terminator versions of necrons that look really sweet and cool. Somebody even used LED lights on some necron models to make them look really bad ass and awesome.
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Post by Gabriel Lupus on Mar 17, 2011 4:42:50 GMT -5
Wasn't there some mention of a rumour a while back regarding Necron leaders being able to take on the form/essence of a C'tan (as an upgrade or something) - in a similar vein to how Chaos models can be possessed by Greater Daemons.
I'm sure I read that somewhere...
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Post by destroyerlord on Mar 17, 2011 6:15:05 GMT -5
FNP is better at the mo than WBB because it means combat res is not always a defeat to crons so they are then run down, they can stay in combat better.
There is rumour that the lords will be able to get an upgrade to turn them into something similar to but not as powerful as a ctan.
There are also rumours that the cron codex has not formed as quickly as was hoped so has slipped back and the new tau book will be the next release followed by another imperial then the crons!! It sucks cos i have 6k of crons at present and i cant use them cos they are sh1t! hence im on here and building a guard army!!
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Post by Gabriel Lupus on Mar 17, 2011 10:12:04 GMT -5
Good point about the combat res and FNP destroyerlord... I hadn't considered that funnily enough. That also sounds like the rumour I was referring to - glad to know someone else is aware of it and it's not just my fevered brain... What would everyone think to having such pearls as the FW Tomb Stalker and Pylon in the new Necron codex? Maybe structure points would be the new way of representing living metal? So the Tau could also be receiving a new codex soon... can't say as I particularly think they need one, but it would nice if they used that as an excuse to give fire warrior squads access to a Burst cannon (being as I've just converted one ) Hopefully any other "Imperial" codexes will be more Inquisitional related ones - Deathwatch and SoB that is... - but sadly I'm sure there's some "Cream Marines of Doom" chapter we've not seen waiting in the wings...
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Post by F.K.M on Mar 17, 2011 10:22:27 GMT -5
Yeah but FNP and WBB both don't matter when you're hit by power weapons. Actually i think if you have a res. orb WBB is still allowed. So basically that can be better than FNP sometimes.
I'm totally un-interested in tau for some reason though i do admit xv9's sound bad ass (think of a love child of the crisis suit and broadside battlesuit). I do however like dark eldar, grey knights (who needed an update badly gameplay-wise), eldar and possibly blood angels.
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Post by Laughing Man on Mar 17, 2011 14:09:19 GMT -5
Rumour is Matt Ward is going to write it so prepare for a raping of 40k's established fluff.
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Post by F.K.M on Mar 17, 2011 14:10:42 GMT -5
@laughing man: Ass raping commencing in 5....
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Post by cheminhaler on Mar 17, 2011 15:05:47 GMT -5
Apparently now it might be Tau before Necron - or it could just be one big hoax.
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Post by Paradill on Mar 17, 2011 15:19:04 GMT -5
Rumour is Matt Ward is going to write it so prepare for a raping of 40k's established fluff. So we'll be getting a story where the necrons stop fighting on christmas day to have a football match against the blood angels?
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Post by cheminhaler on Mar 17, 2011 15:32:01 GMT -5
Only if the Virgin Mary gets to referee.
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Post by destroyerlord on Mar 17, 2011 16:02:01 GMT -5
The reason according to the rumour is that its taking longer than thought to get the mechanics of the new stat lines working so testing is on going and the Tau were in line for the next non-imperial book.
If they do go for FNP then im sure there will be some boost to it like an orb so it will still work against instakill and power weapons within x".
I would like to see the tomb stalker in the book, not sure about the pylon but some kind of mini lith (obelisk) would be nice.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 17, 2011 18:27:21 GMT -5
Rumour is Matt Ward is going to write it so prepare for a raping of 40k's established fluff. So we'll be getting a story where the necrons stop fighting on christmas day to have a football match against the blood angels? Only if the Virgin Mary gets to referee. *Kirk voice* "WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!!!" Seriously, has Ward basically become the default author for the codexes of armies with 3+ saves? Can't GW come up with some more LotR stuff for him to work on to keep him from molesting the 40K universe anymore than he already has...? *Rolls eyes* *Gags*
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Post by Laughing Man on Mar 17, 2011 18:44:12 GMT -5
I was reading some old codices specifically 4th ed, SM, CSM and IG and WH. All of these codexes were better written, more fun and flexible. The key link between them all. They were written by two or more people and i think this collective writting with people like Andy Chambers, Andy Hoare, Graham McNeill and Phil Kelly meant that the codices came out better due to the fact the writers had to work together and compromise to make a balanced and intelligent codex and could suggest amendments to unclear ideas or help to remove silly ideas. This is why i think GW needs to rehire someone to sit behind Matt Ward and hit him with a hardback 40k rulebook every time he writes something stupid. Matt Ward will soon improve lest he wishes to suffer further brain damage.
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 17, 2011 18:51:04 GMT -5
This is why i think GW needs to rehire someone to sit behind Matt Ward and hit him with a hardback 40k rulebook every time he writes something stupid. Matt Ward will soon improve lest he wishes to suffer further brain damage. I volunteer, although I think that a lot of people would do this pro bono.
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Post by Laughing Man on Mar 17, 2011 18:53:02 GMT -5
This is why i think GW needs to rehire someone to sit behind Matt Ward and hit him with a hardback 40k rulebook every time he writes something stupid. Matt Ward will soon improve lest he wishes to suffer further brain damage. I volunteer, although I think that a lot of people would do this pro bono. *pictures all of IGMB and /tg/ lining up to take their shot at ward* He'd be dead before he wrote his first love poem about Calgar.
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Post by Julian Sharps on Mar 18, 2011 10:39:05 GMT -5
He'd be dead before he wrote his first love poem fanboy slash wank about Calgar and Abbadon. Fixed.
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Post by Paradill on Mar 18, 2011 12:56:41 GMT -5
He'd be dead before he wrote his first love poem fanboy slash wank about Calgar and Abbadon arguing over who loves Mat Ward more. Fixed. Fixed again.
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