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Post by vegna on Apr 15, 2011 18:29:21 GMT -5
So was going to buy some but at £15 it seems a little steep, was wondering if anyone else uses water effects or another way to get water effects? Persoanlly was thinking of using supper glue and then using a blue wash on it. Ideas?
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Apr 15, 2011 18:58:00 GMT -5
Do you mean the Citadel Water Effects? If so, I'd advise against it. A friend of mine used it on a gaming table he was making, and said that it was horrible to work with... What I've done in the past is paint a surface the color that I want the water to be, and then go over it with multiple coats of polyurethane gloss varnish.
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Post by emptyhat on Apr 16, 2011 17:06:17 GMT -5
Would PVA and blue wash work well?
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Post by dcrabb on Apr 18, 2011 14:58:48 GMT -5
I have mixed PVA water and paint to get a nice a water effect. I painted the surface first then added paint to PVA and poured it over the painted surface. Here is a photo of one piece. If I had to do it all over again, I would have used a darker paint color to get a more scumy effect. The PVA mix will shink more than Water effects when it dries. IMGP2759 by Doug Crabb, on Flickr
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Post by emptyhat on Apr 18, 2011 18:31:26 GMT -5
Thankyou for posting that picture Dcrabb. I'm sure I'll end up doing some water features at somepoint myself but I'm not much of a terrain maker.
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Post by Yeti's Yell on Apr 18, 2011 18:43:17 GMT -5
I use 2 stage resin epoxy. Not sure where you live or what your skill level is but here in the States it is called Envirotex. It is what they pour over bartops to give that thick high-build finish. It can be tricky to work with. I usually tint it with inks but that is a few drops over a gallon kit.
If you want me to post pictures of examples of what I did with with that stuff I can, just let me know.
I've used Envirotex to make free-standing water features as well as smaller effects on modular ponds. I haven't had any experience with the GW water effects mostly becuase of the reputation.
Easier than this is to just paint an area a water color and after the terrain is sealed, paint on high-build/high gloss polyurethane. They even make polyurethane in a water based formula which is easy to use and yields good, solid results.
Inks, especially blue ink on it's own, seldom look like water. It is the finish (ie gloss) that cues your eye that it is water so use ink sparingly. If you look at a body of water it is typically a brown-green or green blue and often a neutral color.
BTW, nice work dcrabb.
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Post by vegna on Apr 18, 2011 18:55:51 GMT -5
Thanks for all the advice, will see if I can get a small sample of each to test out
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Post by 3ff3ct on Apr 23, 2011 11:03:28 GMT -5
I have used the GW water effects, and its ok, although it takes ages to dry which is a bit o a pain if theres dust/fluff around. From what others have done, I would go for gloss varnish in the future as it dries quicker and is cheaper. I have never used resin though, so I cannot comment on that!
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Post by macknight on Apr 23, 2011 11:45:20 GMT -5
The water effect is good, but as before mentioned, it takes ages to dry if you don't follow directions, layer it thin and it dries in a week, thick it could take a couple months; best way to do it is to let it set in a clean and sealed toppleware.
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 23, 2011 12:32:31 GMT -5
A week!?! I got some from a market stall which drys 12-16 hours, and it came with little sachets of brown to make muddy water and red to make blood. how much is citadel water effects? my one, Deluxe solid water, was £7.50.
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Post by 3ff3ct on May 6, 2011 14:44:43 GMT -5
Mine took ~24 hours. That sounds cool with pre-mix colouring, itd make stuff a lot easier if GW provided simnilar with theirs
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