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Post by Empirespy on Apr 22, 2011 11:17:15 GMT -5
I was looking through my Chaos marine codex and couldn't find any rules for dark apostles or Warsmiths. Are there any? If so could someone tell me where I could find them.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 22, 2011 11:31:59 GMT -5
Those units are not in the current Chaos Space Marine codex.
They are in the pervious CSMs codex included in the rules for Word Bearers and Iron Warriors.
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Post by Walrus on Apr 22, 2011 11:33:03 GMT -5
There aren't any in the codex, trust me. I'm not sure if there have been rules done for them by GW...
Damn, ninjad...
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 22, 2011 11:35:40 GMT -5
If they don't have rules then why do they even mention the warsmith with a picture (p68)?
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Post by Walrus on Apr 22, 2011 11:39:42 GMT -5
Who knows... Maybe a bad translation between fluff and rules?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 22, 2011 11:45:15 GMT -5
Notice that Warsmith is in quotes....
also try to point out which guy in that picture is a the warsmith...
do you see any servo arms?
That's just another name for the generic chaos lord in an Iron Warriors army.
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 22, 2011 11:45:32 GMT -5
I have another question a slight aside but it beats starting a new thread, the gift of chaos does your opponent choose which model is removed, say VS CCS could he choose a guardsman or do I choose (his col)?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 22, 2011 11:49:21 GMT -5
The chaos player gets to choose.
It say you pick an enemy model, as in an individual model, and you make him take a toughness test.
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 22, 2011 12:05:25 GMT -5
awesome! the unkillable Col Shostak will evade me no more! Mwauhahahahaha!
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Post by Walrus on Apr 22, 2011 22:13:53 GMT -5
You have just jinxed yourself, I bet you will use it and roll either a 1 or 2 every time  |
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Apr 24, 2011 13:55:44 GMT -5
The good Colonel Shostak isn't unkillable, he's just very good at diving for cover. As far as I can tell a Warsmith is essentially a chaos Lord and for a dark Apostle you could eith use the rules for a Lord or write your own rules. Or maybe you could get hold of a copy of the old codex or download it.
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 24, 2011 15:58:09 GMT -5
I know the old rules just wondering if there were new rules. And Shostak has yet to die by my hands, no thanks to that no good nork deadork, or something like that...
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Apr 25, 2011 2:35:42 GMT -5
That's a good point, if you pick an officer, can they 'Look out Arrgh' onto a bodyguard? Or does it not count as a wound. I can't remember the way the rules on that work.
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Post by Laughing Man on Apr 25, 2011 2:50:32 GMT -5
Sadly in what scientists are calling pretty fornicateing lame. GW decided to make the Chaos Codex the first victim of the new boring, simplified and 12 year old retard friendly lists. Extracting all that was fun and interesting about the chaos list (Legions, massive armoury, etc) with a watery knockoff that could only really be used to represent the Black Legion effectively.
That codex is why i stopped playing with my chaos marines, because they were no longer Alpha Legion, they were a bunch of guys with no special abilities or legion based attributes.
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Post by Walrus on Apr 25, 2011 4:08:02 GMT -5
It's also the reason I haven't bought anything chaos related for years and switched to DE as soon as the new codex came out.... Now the long wait to 6th edition...
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 25, 2011 5:07:36 GMT -5
It specifically states 'no wounds are taken' and the rule 'look out arrggh' is to do with wound allocation. One point, if you can replace the model with a spawn which is worth 40 victory points, do you have to pay for it points wise?
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Post by WestRider on Apr 25, 2011 8:50:58 GMT -5
No, you don't have to pay for the Spawn. How would you, you can't know how many you're going to make?
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Post by Walrus on Apr 25, 2011 11:06:52 GMT -5
With the look out rule, it's a little hard to jump in front of indirect spontaneous mutation...
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 25, 2011 11:15:19 GMT -5
I would like to see Nork that very much,
*Squish*
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Post by Walrus on Apr 25, 2011 11:17:44 GMT -5
If somebody took nork, I would turn HIM into the spawn ;D protector becomes vanquisher...
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 26, 2011 13:27:23 GMT -5
Why do that when you can take out the Col more easily?
I took Shostak on today, with my Tau and without Nork, he still is unkillable, running away alone, shot at last turn with plasma rifle, hits, wounds and his refractor field saved him, lucky b*****d.
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