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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on May 18, 2011 4:50:35 GMT -5
Librarian 250 mastery 3, Master Crafted Warding Stave, Quicksilver, Might of Titan
Brotherhood Champion 105 Pysbolt Ammunition
10 Paladins 780 Apothecary, Brotherhood banner, 9 pairs of Master Crafted falchions, 2 Psycannons
Vindicare Assassin 145
5 Grey Knights 140 Incinerator, Psybolt Ammunition
5 Grey Knightsn 140 Incinerator, Psybolt Ammunition,
Nemesis Dreadknight 185 Nemesis Greatsword, Heavy Incinerator
the Librarian is with the paladins, and the champion with a unit of GK's
5 points spare, but meh.
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Post by krasimirova on May 18, 2011 7:50:45 GMT -5
Don't play GK myself, but i have beaten GK players.. Here is what i think i can win against you on..
- 2 troop choices.. Auto win on objective games because they are only 3+ T4 guys.. And there is only 10 of them total..
- 45% of your army is in one squad.. And that is without counting the Libby in the squad.. (Then it is almost 60% of your army)
- Your walking.. Most players arn't.. You will be picked apart in range.. And then personally i would just move away from you or give up a sacrificial squad to keep your deathstar away..
- You have no range.. (No they don't count, because they are range 24")
- The paladins are only S4.. (Yes yes i know they are S6 with HH and MoT + 2d6 pen) but you are very very dependent on those psyhic powers to go off to take out a Dread.. Any if there is a hood near, or a rune or some shadows in the warp, then you might end up with S4..:/ Sure it is a hard squad.. But at 1000 points guard can get 6 demolishers.. Just pointing it out..
I know it sounds hard, but i don't like the list.. Too many holes, and it is too easy to counter.. Range, mobility, hell even numbers.. Imagne playing against a DE player in Raiders.. All he has to do is to kill your GK squads, then move around and shoot at you.. And you will NEVER catch him... Sure you have 2 psycannons with range 24" and a assasin, but that isn't enough.. Not at 1750 points..
Again.. Sorry to sound hard, but that is how i see it..
Kras..
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on May 18, 2011 9:13:44 GMT -5
wasn't designed 2to be a competitive list. also, the paladins and librarian, and both squads of Grey Knights can Deep Strike in, with the Paladins being able to do so regardless of mission rules.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on May 18, 2011 9:25:55 GMT -5
revised list
Librarian 250 mastery 3, Master Crafted Warding Stave, Quicksilver, Might of Titan
5 Paladins 435 Apothecary, Brotherhood banner, 4 pairs of Master Crafted falchions, Psycannon
Vindicare Assassin 145
10 Grey Knights 240 Incinerator, Psybolt Ammunition
10 Grey Knightsn 240 Incinerator, Psybolt Ammunition,
Nemesis Dreadknight 185 Nemesis Greatsword, Heavy Incinerator
Land Raider Redeemer 245
1740
changes:
lost 5 paladins, and Brotherhood Champion gained redeemer and 10 more Grey Knights
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Post by krasimirova on May 18, 2011 13:20:43 GMT -5
Didn't talk competitive on my pointers, those where general game therms.. But you made a much better list.. More surviability, more mobility on the Redeemer.. Think that is better than DS, since you don't have servoskulls on the table, and it is a terrible price to pay for a mishap.. Loosing 1000 points on a 1750 game before any shooting starts dosn't sound good... Only thing i have would be to mix up the loadout on the paladins to make some wound allocation tricks..
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Post by lizardmen98 on Jan 14, 2013 2:30:03 GMT -5
I personally only squeeze them in as an ally. Guard are a great army to make up for their numbers, but its slightly strange that their not blood brothers in the rule book. Is this because of the GK mind wipe and crap/inquisitorial?
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Post by dougeye on Jan 14, 2013 3:27:59 GMT -5
GK's are paranoid fascists who would rather slaughter an entire guard army than let 1 guardsman let someone know they exist. protocol is... guard - execution of all but the highest ranking officers (yarrick, straken any IC realy) Spacemarines - all but chapter masters have their memories erased lol just incase chaos is lurking in the ranks. as for GK's and gameplay i have about 2500 points of GKs (upgraded) which is about 25 models lol I would much rather play guard for fun as i like sitting back and blowing s**t up lol but GK's look very nice on the display shelf , having said that playing the right way they are very competative even with the original list. as the OP said the use of deepstrike is key. Deepstrike the dreadknight and paladins into the right spots and let the 10 GK's sit on objectives shinning their power armour lol
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Post by lizardmen98 on Jan 14, 2013 15:53:17 GMT -5
Ye 12 models is 1000 points!
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