Elysian list, 1k

[visitor]

Greetings Lads!

I recently received a copy of IA8 from the local GW, and have started planning on how to resurrect my harakoni warhawks with it.

For the most part, I fight a wide array of enemies, most of the guys i know have 2-3 armies, although I usually end up going against either Power armor (traitors and loyalists) or guard (almost always mechanised). I would appreciate any kind of feedback or advice, as im more hobbyist than list builder.

EDIT: modified the list, comes to 1k flat. Basic plan is to have the GL vets and CCS hold home objectives and bust light armor, while the other vet squads and the sentinels DS or valk onto the enemy.

Melta vets will pop tanks, plasma vets focus on heavy infantry or light armor (as needed) and the valks will rocket pod the survivors. sentinels engage light infantry, hit rear armor, and maybe tarpit some unit that happens to be nearby

HQ

Elysian CCS
- vet with GL
- grenadiers
- Missile Launcher

Elysian command squads are limited to one special weapon, and only one advisor, the master of the fleet, i plan to have this guy DS in support barking out orders as needed, and taking a few pot shots should the situation favor it.

Troops

Elysian Vet Squad
- valkyrie with MRPs as dedicated transport
- 3 meltaguns
- Grenadiers

Elysian Vet Squad
- valkyrie with MRPs as dedicated transport
- 3 meltaguns
- Grenadiers

Elysian Vet Squad
- 1 Missile Launcher
-3 'nade launchers
-Grenadiers

Elysian Vet Squad
-3 Plamsa guns
-Grenadiers

Drop Sentinel Squadron
-two sentinels, both with HB's stock


And any all constructive criticism and advice would be welcome.

[visitor]

UPDATE:

I've thought about this list some more, and have come up with a few ideas on tweaking it.

1. I have exactly 60 points left over, I could try and squeeze in a lone drop sentinel with multi-melta and see what happens. Alternitively, I could drop the P-fists and take two drop sentinels with HB's, taking me to 1k points flat.

2. I could try and upgrade a vet squad with forward sentries, giving them camo cloaks and a homing beacon. This would take a lot of unpredictability out of my deep striking force, though it would make a squad a little too expensive for my tastes

3. If i drop a single power fist, I would be able to get a lone tauros buggy with tauros grenade launcher (think two shot GL) and a homing beacon. This little guy has scout and is a fast vehicle, so I could outflank him into the heart of the enemy, and deep strike the rest of the army around him.

I'm unsure what to do, to be honest. At this stage, ill take any suggestions.

[RedsandRoyals]

Is this going to be built with actual Elysian models, or just using IA 8? Using the Elysian models actually limits your wargear to some extent.

For your CCS, I'd make that weapon a Meltagun and give the officer a Power Weapon, of some kind and change out the rest of the weapons for laspistols, or I'd put a Heavy Weapon team, probably an ML, in there to back up the GL.

For your troops, I have to say the PFist is a very expensive luxury in a 1k list. Downgrade it to a power weapon if you take anything at all. Bolt Pistols are also kind of worthless, so you're better off spending those points elsewhere. You should also strongly consider moving your Valks around between your squads. A footslogging Plasma squad is going to get splattered very quickly. Give them a Valk instead of the GL squad, and consider putting ML teams in the two Vet squads with GLs to give you a nice base of fire. I'd also suggest dropping the doctrines, since you can use those points to either get more troops.

Here's a slightly tweaked list you might want to think about

Company Command Squad: 75pts
Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher team

Veteran Squad: 110pts
3 Grenade Launchers, Missile Team

Veteran Squad: 240pts
3 Plasma Guns
Valkyrie w/ MRPs

Veteran Squad: 240pts
3 Plasma Guns
Valkyrie w/ MRPs


Veteran Squad: 125pts
3 Meltaguns, 6 Shotguns

Vendetta Gunship: xxxpts

Tauros Venator: 65pts
TL Lascannon

(Note this was done in Army Builder, so be sure to check it against the actual IA 8 list to make sure it's legal)

By stripping out a lot of the random wargear, you're going to be able to fit a Vendetta and a Las Tauros into your list, as well as seriously upgrade your firepower in the vet squads. The CCS and the GL/ML squad are also perfect for camping objectives and popping transports.

Reds

[visitor]

I should have clarified, im not using the elysian models, and its going to be a harakoni warhawks army, hence the universal carapace

Your advice was very good, thank you for it. Im very strapped for cash, and most likely wont be able to get any FW models, so I probably wont be able to include any tauros vehicles. Hopefully those sentinels will work untill i can save up for them

As for the points costs, you are spot on except for the plasma vets in the valks, they were overpriced slightly

I mainly planned to DS the plasma squads, as i figured the meltaguns needed more precision due to their short range, hence their valkyrie transport. I guess ill test out which squad works better with the valk in future games.

EDIT: well, this is the newer list, taking into account your new changes. Further criticism is welcome.