1000 pts Orks - Which list is most competitive?

[akaiyou]

Which of these do u guys think would be more competitive to play in a 1,000 pt tourney

1000 Pts - Codex: Orks Roster - Dakka

HQ:
. . 1 Big Mek, 90 pts (Bosspole; Kustom Force Field)

Elite:
. . 15 Lootas, 225 pts

Troops:
. . 19 Boyz, 170 pts (Shootas; Big Shoota x2)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . 19 Boyz, 170 pts (Shootas; Big Shoota x2)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . 19 Boyz, 170 pts (Shootas; Big Shoota x2)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . 19 Boyz, 170 pts (Shootas; Big Shoota x2)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)

Total Roster Cost: 995


1000 Pts - Codex: Orks Roster - GorkaMorka

HQ:
. . 1 Big Mek, 110 pts ('Eavy Armour; Kustom Force Field; Burna)

Elite:
. . 5 Kommandos, 135 pts
. . . . 1 Boss Snikrot
. . 4 Kommandos, 90 pts
. . . . 1 Kommando Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . 4 Kommandos, 90 pts
. . . . 1 Kommando Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)

Troops:
. . 9 Boyz, 145 pts (Shootas)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Trukk (Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job)
. . 9 Boyz, 145 pts (Shootas)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Trukk (Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job)
. . 9 Boyz, 145 pts (Shootas)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Trukk (Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job)

Fast Attack:
. . 1 Deffkoptas, 70 pts (Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Buzzsaw x1)
. . 1 Deffkoptas, 70 pts (Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Buzzsaw x1)

Total Roster Cost: 1000



1000 Pts - Codex: Orks Roster - Kult of Speed

HQ:
. . 1 Warboss, 90 pts (Attack Squig; Slugga; Big Choppa; )
. . 1 Warboss, 90 pts (Attack Squig; Slugga; Big Choppa; )

Troops:
. . 1 Nobz, 315 pts (Cybork Body)
. . . . 1 Painboy
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Bosspole; Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Waaagh! Banner; Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Trukk (Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job)
. . 1 Nobz, 315 pts (Cybork Body)
. . . . 1 Painboy
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Bosspole; Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Slugga; Power Klaw)
. . . . 1 Nobz (Waaagh! Banner; Slugga; Big Choppa)
. . . . 1 Trukk (Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job)

Fast Attack:
. . 5 Warbikers, 190 pts
. . . . 1 Biker Nob (Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw)

Total Roster Cost: 1000

[treadiculous]

Out of the three lists you've posted I tend toward the GorkaMorka, but only just!

I'm wondering if you have a lot of choice or have a more limited selection of Orks to choose from.

The Kult of Speed is a very very small force, imagine what a Battlecannon (instant death) would do to them!

The Dakka list has a lot of boyz, which is always good, but Lootaz are too pricey for what they deliver in small games (they have a big target painted on them and S7 isn't enough, even if you're firing a lot of them!). The other problem is that the Klaws will take a while to reach their targets.

The Gorka List is curios, I like the Trukk Boyz, and Kommando's are cool, but with so man they;'l be tripping over each other for decent places to infiltrate into, and the small unit size means they could well run away before you get to land a Klaw somewhere.
The other 'problem' is the small units of Deffkoptas... they're expensive and very fragile... 140 points goes a long way with orks.

Having spent last night planning an Ork list, I was torn between similar lists - fast mobile lists vs elite troops vs big mobz..

I'd maybe combine some of the elements:

Trukkz:
RamTrukk KlawBoyz (Reinforced Ram + 11 Boys, 1 Nob with Klaw) = 147
RamTrukk KlawBoyz (Reinforced Ram + 11 Boys, 1 Nob with Klaw) = 147
= 294 for the pair

Boyz Mobz:
(as you make them) = 170
(as you make them) = 170
= 340 for the pair

If you have the model, I'd add a BattleWagon with Killkannon at 150 (or use your spare trukk)

Warboss on Bike with Nobz / Boyz (for which you have 216 points to spend)

This gives you the speed to get your Klaws in early, a sturdy number of boyz to go for objectives and take a beating and also a High Strength weapon on a Tank.

The problem is that it ticks all the boxes - Heavy Vehicle, Light Vehicle, and Big Units of Infantry, so a lot of armies tend to cover all three when going for Tourny style lists... if you could let us know what models you have we could trim it more to a 'all of one / denial' list (ie; all AV targets).

Hope this helps!

[akaiyou]

2 Big Mek
- 1 Big Mek - Mek's Tools; Kustom Force Field; Burna(Converted)
- 1 Big Mek - Shokk Attack Gun
1 Boss Snikrot
200 Boyz
- 104 Boyz - Choppa & Slugga
- 78 Boyz - Shootas
- 18 Boyz - Big Shoota
9 Burna Boyz
- 6 Burna Boyz - Burna
- 3 Mekboy - Mek's Tools; Kustom Mega-Blasta
15 Deffkoptas
- 12 Deffkoptas - Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha; Choppa
- 3 Deffkoptas - Buzzsaw; Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha; Choppa (Converted)
35 Kommandos
- 25 Kommandos - Choppa & Slugga (converted)
- 8 Kommandos - Choppa & Slugga (metal)
- 2 Kommando Nob - Slugga; Power Klaw
16 Lootas
- 16 Lootas - Deffguns
38 Nobz
- 10 Nobz - Power Klaw
- 8 Nobz - Big Choppa
- 6 Nobz - Choppa
- 6 Nobz - Bosspole; Power Klaw
- 4 Nobz - Bosspole; Big Choppa
- 3 Nobz - Waaagh! Banner; Big Choppa
- 1 Nobz - Power Klaw; Shoota/Skorcha Kombi-weapon
4 Painboy
9 Tankbusta Boyz
3 Trukk
6 Warbikers
- 5 Warbikers - Choppa & Slugga; Dakkagun
- 1 Biker Nob - Slugga; Power Klaw; Dakkagun
3 Warboss
- 1 Warboss - Slugga; Power Klaw
- 1 Warboss - Choppa; Slugga
- 1 Warboss - Slugga; Big Choppa


That's what I own.

[treadiculous]

Looking at your list I would consider a list based on the following:

WarBiker and Niker Troops - include a Painboy

KlawBoys and ShootaKlawBoyz

Burna Boyz

Kommando + Klaw + Burna

Rokkit Koptas

The focus should be on a big chunk of Boyz, the Bikes and Kopta's add manouverability - rokkit koptaz outflank and rear armour stuff. (as you know).

If there's room get Kommando's and Burna Boyz, flamers automatically hit so the Ork BS2 is neutralised, the Klaw will give your opponent a reason for concern so use it to un-nerve them.