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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 14:46:19 GMT -5
I think the title says it all but I can't differenciate my average vet from average cadet so I was wondering if there are any markings or ways to paint them to differenciate
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Post by Peter Cooman on Apr 29, 2012 14:53:40 GMT -5
silver and gold aquilas on the helmets?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 15:00:13 GMT -5
Abit more distinctive. maybe a white mohawk band on helmet
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Post by Empirespy on Apr 29, 2012 15:37:20 GMT -5
Well I believe that conscripts can only display a white helmet stripe, and so are called 'Whitesheilds'.
As for vets, possibly add a few painted medals, or little silver dots above there brow (not sure If the guard do this but marines do for every 50 years of service, and vets should have served for a while...)
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Post by Peter Cooman on Apr 29, 2012 15:45:07 GMT -5
Or show it off on their shoulder pads. You can put specifics on there like campaign signs to show how many wars they have fought in.
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Post by macknight on Apr 29, 2012 15:45:43 GMT -5
Well I believe that conscripts can only display a white helmet stripe, and so are called 'Whitesheilds'. As for vets, possibly add a few painted medals, or little silver dots above there brow (not sure If the guard do this but marines do for every 50 years of service, and vets should have served for a while...) 50 yrs for a guard is beyond his expected life time and some, if you're still a guardsman after 50 yrs of service, no comment.. I gave my vets the ace decal and skull squad markings to distinquish from the rest. |
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Apr 29, 2012 15:53:10 GMT -5
Seems like we get a thread about this every two or three months. I should probably add something to the FAQs, about this.
The white stripe, the "White Shield", is a distinctive Cadian identification mark. If you're running a Cadian unit, or a unit from a world settled by a mustered out Cadian unit, it would be appropriate, but consider other options if you're not. The simplest option would be painting one of the shoulder pads on the armour a different color. Fresh recruits could have a white or blue shoulder pad (or some other color with significance for your planet), vets with, say, 5 years or more under their belt could have a red shoulder pad, etc.
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Post by optimat on Apr 29, 2012 16:42:32 GMT -5
Well, I tried to model all of my veterans differently on purpose. I have a veteran squad all using different types of space marine scout heads, and a veteran squad using catachan models in my (mostly) Cadian spin off army.
Other than that, if you just want to give them a marking, Conscript squads of whiteshields has clearly been mentioned, but perhaps another colour in a similar manner would suit. That, or perhaps, as I planned to do - give the veterans camo and the normal troops not. This would work especially well if you plan on giving your veterans Forward Sentries.
As far as silver studs on the helmet goes this could also work. There is some proof to suggest the Cadians stick to this, as in the PCS sprue there is a head of a cigar smoking helmeted trooper with three studs across his brow.
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Post by krasimirova on Apr 30, 2012 4:52:41 GMT -5
Helmet colours.. I use Bleached bone for my veterans...
Ofcause this dosn't help determining the individual squads.. So normally it is just by knowing my models..:/
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Post by Jackal-0311 on Apr 30, 2012 11:08:44 GMT -5
I would check out a bit store to see if you can get the skull shoulder pad/ the one you with the Valk kit.
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Post by krasimirova on Apr 30, 2012 11:26:16 GMT -5
Sculpt some skulls on clean shoulder pads.. Skulls arn't that hard to make with a bit of greenstuff and a hobby knife..
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Post by egon on May 8, 2012 14:05:37 GMT -5
I think the title says it all but I can't differenciate my average vet from average cadet so I was wondering if there are any markings or ways to paint them to differenciate How do you differ a newly graduated rifleman from a three-tour veteran? You usually don't, there's a reason they're called "uniforms". That said you are totally free to paint and model your veterans in any way you want as long as you're able to differ them from other troops. Personally I go with what I know from the service. The new guys have to follow regulations a lot more when it comes to gear, appearance and so on. The "oldies" have more personal gear, often with a few personal "modifications" of dubious legality, they might have "lost" equipment that they don't need, etc. In my guard army I have different roles for different veteran squads. The plasma vet squad is long range patrol kind of squad. Lots of gear, pickaxes and other stuff they need if they have to go trekking through the wilderness for a couple of months. Since they have carapace they get their armour painted in the same colour as my Storm Troopers. Same basic uniform as the normal grunts though. The Melta Vets are more of a Rapid Response Unit, get in, do some damage, hopefully get out. They have lots of night vision gear, goggles and charges to blow doors and such. They also have their own uniform. The veterans in the CCS wear the same kind of semi-formal uniform as their commander (you can check them out in the "Battle Brothers"-thread, last entry). Harper's vets have been stalking the fields and forests for so long that they wear what they can get. Their uniforms are at least a few issues out of date and they barely have a helmet between them. The normal grunts wear the standard uniforms with few variations. Some of the ones that have survived training exercises with our Catachan sister regiment wear read bandanas but except for that and skin colour they look more or less the same. |
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Post by upguardsandatem on May 9, 2012 5:54:29 GMT -5
Probably just repeating stuff now, I vary the aquila colour on the helmet and give my vets more equipment, also I have different sqaud markings.
I have silver aquilas for regular troops, white for vets and gold for command. My Vets have a skull shoulder badge with number whilst my troops just get a number 1-0 for PCS, 1-1 for 1st platoon 1st squad etc
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Post by TheHoboHunter on May 14, 2012 2:56:16 GMT -5
Something I've recently done with my Cadians is merge the uniforms between my regular grunts (standard milgreen/khaki "cadian" colour) and kasrkin (orange-brown jags on the armour) to reflect their "elite" role.
Even if they're no longer Elites choices, it's a nice way of breaking up squads that otherwise usually have the same allotment of equipment.
For conscripts, I get the easy way out playing a legit Cadian army, right? WRONG. Conscipts are junk, so I don't use mine anymore. I'm actually considering painting up some heavy weapons/sgts and re-assign them as a regular platoon now. I mean, those whiteshields are probably the same standard of soldier as some OTHER planets' offerings, right?
...right?
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