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Post by treadiculous on Jun 10, 2012 14:32:39 GMT -5
I hadn't considered this until I read on Dakka an arguement that puts the Nob upgrade to Painboy into question. The debate is regarding the wording of the upgrade (which it is not described as), and that there is a picture of a unit of Nobs which when costed up seems to support the 'not an upgrade' arguement. here is the thread on dakka which goes into some depth on the matter. www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/453938.pagejust so you know, I have been counting the cost as Nob plus additional points for upgrade to painboy. whats you're take on the matter? |
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jun 10, 2012 14:40:13 GMT -5
I always thought the Painboy was purchased as a whole model, not an upgrade. Checking Army Builder, they seem to treat it the same way (take it with a grain of salt, though).
Reds
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Post by Empirespy on Jun 10, 2012 15:08:22 GMT -5
Is it worded;
"One Nob may be a Painboy.........................+30pts"
or is this just a paraphrase?
If it is like that, I'd say 50Pts as it's +30pts, and the plus implies that there was an original points cost it was added to, the nob, and therefore 50pts
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Jun 10, 2012 15:20:14 GMT -5
Just checked my codex, "One Nob may be a Painboy....+30pts" is the wording used. This would imply to me that as empire said, it's 20pts for the Nob, plus 30 for the Painboy, leaving a total of 50.
The Dakka people are also right about the 'page 83' scenario, where a unit of Nobs is shown with the painboy appearing to cost only 30 points.
As far as I'm concerned, unless it's FAQed I'd pay the extra 20 points and be done with it; I'd rather have paid too much for a model than too little.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 10, 2012 18:08:40 GMT -5
I've always been paying 50 points for the guy. As you know Tread he is well worth those points.
Page 83 seems to be a mistake, after all it lists the unit as 5 models not 6 (as is pictured). I bet Someone just told the people photographing it "put down 5 nobs" and then later said "add a painboy" or something like that :/
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Post by akaiyou on Jun 16, 2012 21:24:02 GMT -5
yeah i agree with emptyhat seems like page 83 is the error and that he is infact 50 pts.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 17, 2012 18:10:35 GMT -5
I was thinking about it and if you do agree that 83 is true you could also argue that the Painboy upgrade doesn't count against the unit limit. I mean they've listed 5 nobs and a painboy and pictured 5 nobs and a painboy so if you go along with the lower cost you could also have a unit of 10 nobs + a painboy.
Which would be pretty dodgy mind and convinces me more that they just cocked up the photo.
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Post by WestRider on Jun 17, 2012 19:31:45 GMT -5
Note further that the Army list on the same Page also fails to include the second Power Klaw in the Unit. The same Nob with Waaagh! Banna is shown on Pg. 67 and described as having a Power Klaw. And there are arguably 4 Bosspoles in the Unit as well. I think that's better filed as sloppiness in putting together the Colour Section of the Dex than anything that could be relied upon as a Rules Argument.
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