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Post by buddha on Jun 13, 2012 7:07:25 GMT -5
I love using sentinels, but until recently didn't have any of my own. I'm building a new IG force after my last one was destroyed and I'm going to include some sentinels in it.
Now the problem, my regiments fluff fits Scout Sentinels better then Armoured Sentinels, plus I think Scout Sentinels are more tactically flexible. But I don't like the scout cockpit.
Is there any way I could use the armoured cockpit but still get across that the vehicle is opentopped?
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Post by egon on Jun 13, 2012 8:06:28 GMT -5
IMO, nope. The armoured cockpit is too plated up to be anything but an armoured cockpit.
What exactly don't you like about the scout? Might be able to help if we know your objections.
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Post by buddha on Jun 13, 2012 8:08:48 GMT -5
The upper cage bit. I'd prefer if the pilot wasn't visible.
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Post by ColGravis on Jun 13, 2012 8:17:41 GMT -5
Is a bit of a tricky one, I'd have to agree that for general gaming the enclosed of the armoured is quite distinct from the Scout. What about if you added plasticard to the frame to give the impression of glass windows, and then painted the windows, as some people do with the Valkryie. Not the best example of the effect, I've seen it done really well, but like this.  |
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 13, 2012 8:19:09 GMT -5
Isn't there a half-and-half option you can make from the kit. The one which has plates over the sides of the frames but still has an open top.
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Post by buddha on Jun 13, 2012 8:52:23 GMT -5
ColGravis: That's doable, but I'd rather not have all the sides glass, but I think it would work well for the front of the top. emptyhat: I though of that but thought that people might still assume it was an Armoured Sentinel.
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Post by Welsh Paul on Jun 13, 2012 9:04:21 GMT -5
As long as you announce to people before the game that they are Scout Sentinels, I can't see there being a problem. The only possible combination that could arise is if you were to play two units - one Scout and one Armoured.
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Post by optimat on Jun 13, 2012 12:43:20 GMT -5
I have to say, I did the half and half for my one Sentinel for the same reasons and you, and I can't see anyone really having a problem with it - it does have an open top after all. I'll take a photo of how it looks if you like before committing to anything? (it's not painted, mind)
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Post by buddha on Jun 13, 2012 14:25:30 GMT -5
I thought about using the cage with the side armour and leaving the front bare.
@optimate: That might help, thanks
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Post by teku18 on Jun 13, 2012 16:35:47 GMT -5
Why not put some camo netting over the top or something like that. just to give the illusion that it is covered but no armor is evident. I think the catchan sentinels did this IIRC.
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Post by macknight on Jun 13, 2012 18:24:35 GMT -5
 look at the left one with the missiles, I use mostly the armor bits bit use the bar on top to keep it open top when needed. |
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Post by egon on Jun 14, 2012 5:33:47 GMT -5
Well, the whole point of the open topped-ness is that the pilot is supposed to BE visible.  Is it that you don't want to see and paint the pilot or is there some kind of other concern? You could always cover up the sides with some kind of camo net. I used fine mesh to cover the top of mine, you could easily do the same with the sides, all way around. |
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Post by buddha on Jun 14, 2012 9:09:46 GMT -5
I want to use the rules for Scouts, but like the look of the Armoured. I want it to look light, but still somewhat protected against non-direct damage and glancing blows, like modern scout vehicles but with legs.
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Post by krasimirova on Jun 14, 2012 9:53:05 GMT -5
Fast vehicle, could be used to scout enemy lines.. With legs.. www.fastcoolcars.com/Free-Car/wallpaper-0161.htmAnyway.. Build you model the way you like it.. The only important thing is that you and your opponent can tell the difference weapon/type wise.. As long as there is a clear difference between the light and heavy variant i see no problems, even with the most hardcore WYSIWYG haters.. |
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Post by egon on Jun 14, 2012 10:39:19 GMT -5
I want to use the rules for Scouts, but like the look of the Armoured. I want it to look light, but still somewhat protected against non-direct damage and glancing blows, like modern scout vehicles but with legs. But that's just the problem, Sentinels aren't really protected from most damage. Also they don't really look agile with a ton of armour plates covering the entire thing. Like Kras said, there should be a clear difference between an armoured and a non-armoured sentinel. Putting armour on it defeats the purpose, IMO. |
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Post by buddha on Jun 15, 2012 12:11:28 GMT -5
What about something that was open-sided but had a roof. Like combining the cage top from the scout with the roof from the armoured.
That would give me something to work with.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 15, 2012 18:51:43 GMT -5
I think that would be fine. You'd know it was a scout but to be honest if you really do just dig the armoured sents and only want to field scouts you can probably just build them as armoured. Maybe do some bases for them where they're moving through cover.
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Post by egon on Jun 22, 2012 4:29:10 GMT -5
What about something that was open-sided but had a roof. Like combining the cage top from the scout with the roof from the armoured. That would give me something to work with. Sounds great. Like I said, I put netting on top of the cage on my scouts. That way the pilots can get some shelter from the weather and they can camoflauge it a bit and stuff like that. Check out old open-topped tank destroyers for ideas. |
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Post by buddha on Jun 22, 2012 10:06:32 GMT -5
Ok I combined the roof with the cage, and while the pilot it still visible I can live with that. It actually looks pretty cool with green stuff cables wrapped around the cage bar below the antennae and leading into cockpit.
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