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Post by optimat on Aug 17, 2012 9:02:32 GMT -5
So, my guard force needs some allies. Firstly, I'd like to say that my unpainted guard forces are not going to get abandoned or neglected. I love the Crimson Fists, wanted space marine allies, and decided that with 70+ Guardsmen left to paint I needed a break. These guys will be painted to sit alongside the Guardsmen so they'll be based the same, with the desert scheme in mind. Scouts will have different but appropriate desert camo (minus chapter badge). At this point I should say they will be a scout heavy force. More scoring units and some of the unique abilities of scouts will aid my mobility, I hope. So, as some of you may have seen, I have already done the Captain for the force, the Hawk Lord himself, Esteemed Captain of the 10th Company, Lux Ramirez. Anybody who knows any names of Crimson Fists will know I've decided to make my own 10th Company Captain. He was modeled to be an acceptable stand-in for Pedro Kantor so has notably similar wargear. Larger in this post10 man Tactical Scout Squad being built as I post! Then I'll get back to some Guardsmen.
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Aug 17, 2012 10:19:51 GMT -5
Simply epic captain sir, great job!
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Post by optimat on Aug 17, 2012 14:27:09 GMT -5
Thank you very much sir!
I was a bit annoyed at having to hand paint the chapter symbol (couldnt get the transfer to sit right) after sticking the back pack on, but the fine-liner text worked out alright. The green stuff knee pad went a bit funny after setting also which was disappointing but the staff at the local GW helped me out and lent me some dark blue wash which I then bought!
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Post by cheminhaler on Aug 17, 2012 15:55:56 GMT -5
Transfers are horrible, anyway; that freehand is brilliant work. Really love the extreme highlights on the armour.
Kantor can make sternguard vets scoring units too. If you use him as 'counts as' that is..
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Post by optimat on Aug 17, 2012 16:47:40 GMT -5
I fully intend on taking some less-flash photos of him when I get some time but the scouts are my main goal at the moment as the force will be mostly scouts and I'm keen to get the first squad completed as a test-squad for the rest of the force. Thanks for the compliment though, I'll be the first to admit I was nervous trying it and I'm nowhere near confident enough to be doing my own banners yet, but one step at a time! One of the things I love about Crimson Fist painting is the freedom to do such extreme highlighting without using a black armour colour. I was a little thrown at first that it was too much - as my previously painted CF models were toned down (just dark blue and medium blue - like the shade areas of the captain but all over) and that worked en-masse but the Store guy encouraged me to take the plunge and it's grown on me. Some of the lines could do with cleaning up but that can wait a while.
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Post by emptyhat on Aug 17, 2012 18:53:30 GMT -5
I really like the aquila on the backpack, don't worry about the greenstuff knee Spacemarine Armour is revered and repaired over thousands of years so some damage and replacements are inevitable. He's a captain who's been in some fights and his techmarine has done the best he can edit: I really like this aspect of 6th. Creating new forces specifically to fit in with your other army, basing them the same and mayb having little references reflected in them. It occurs to me that my Templars aren't based and that my guard bases would actually look pretty nifty for them.
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Post by optimat on Aug 18, 2012 17:05:28 GMT -5
Okay so after having a beautiful weather day today I took that natural light photo of him and have discovered why it is so favoured for model photo taking - it shows the model as it's seen on the tabletop! Test model for the Space Marine scouts. Decided to give them sand camo to suit the guardsman but wanted a different pattern. Settled on something somewhat resembling a german camo in american chocolate chip colours. The one shoulder pad will stay Crimson Fists blue with a chapter logo. This sarge is a little definitely WIP: The land speeder storm will have a larger version of this camo to match. Thanks! **Sorry, need to find a way to get the pictures sort of smaller.
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Post by kobracommander on Aug 19, 2012 2:43:29 GMT -5
Silly Optimat...scouts don't need to use camoflage. They have the infiltrate rule. They just automatically get to be near the front lines!
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Post by optimat on Aug 19, 2012 2:56:26 GMT -5
Right you are! I was in two minds about doing it. There's fluff arguments either way, and I do like the look of a pristine force with gleaming shoulder pads helping out the grunts of the guard... but then I also wanted them to look like allies. The only blue marines in the list will be a Devastator Squad, Termies, Command Squad, and a Razorback, which is roughly 20% of the list.
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Post by kobracommander on Aug 19, 2012 3:00:26 GMT -5
Well you might be better off. As every time scouts get fielded against me, I usually turn them into paste right away....not through any hatred, but because they are usually the closest unit, and I don't like things that annoy me with sporatic sniper fire. At least camo'd a player like me has less of a chance of ACTUALLY seeing them to target...
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Post by Jackal-0311 on Aug 19, 2012 9:09:32 GMT -5
They look great.
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Post by optimat on Aug 27, 2012 11:34:06 GMT -5
Work is slow but fruitful. I've tried to make the pictures more manageable hopefully. Got a bit further with the Land Speeder. Unfortunately with the people in most of the work is hidden, including all the interior controls, and the flat grey leather seats which I was really proud of because they went so well against the boringly drybrished metal interior. Sarge of the Tactical scouts got finished, including Teleport Homer for those gorgeous boys in blue to come and shoot the crap out of stuff. And I've started work on his boys. Took 2 out from the pack to paint separate from the rest so I can get a good idea for the order that I should mass paint in. One of the two is completely finished the other is nearly there minus small details. Getting better at face I hope, even started trying to do eyes! Finally, an image of what my hobby table looks like at the moment, including headless Command Squad, bare scout squads x2, IG HQ squad in the background, and of course the rolling tanks backing up the walking tanks. Cheers guys!
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Post by kobracommander on Aug 27, 2012 12:44:17 GMT -5
lookin good! NOW PAINT THOSE TERMINATORS!
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Post by optimat on Sept 4, 2012 1:49:02 GMT -5
So I did want to wait a little longer this time before adding any pictures but my timetable has been a little shook up and will be for a while (shift work, bad pattern for painting this month) while I've been out of my fairly new flat, back at home, looking after the family dog. I also lose my camera for a while to a mate of mine, so I thought I'd get some opinions now. This is the Command Squad. Including 2x Plasma pistol, champion with bits from an Emperor's, a head from the Iron Hands set, and some GW CF conversion bits. This is the first time I've bought these as Finecast Resin rather than metal and minus one backpack being ugly, I was impressed. They're so much lighter and hold better (plastic to metal can be so brittle sometimes). The Apoth. is missing an arm because it covers the phials, which I want to do a good job on. I also want to try something I haven't really experimented with before for the Champion which is the lightning crack effect all up his huge power sword, including a minor OSL effect on the rest of his armour in the way of red highlights. Next is the Assault Squad which I've had for a little while but I dont think I've posted. They're going to end up in a scheme like this Also, I've started some work on Kobra's Terminators. Started is the key word. Some of these guys are only on their first coat of blue... but primarily I wanted to show how the black/white undercoat turns out to make the armour look aged. I'm really happy with it so far. Only the Captain in this pic has enough layers to carry on with the rest of him. I hope to have him finished after this weekend. They will end up with a pretty un-inspiring scheme, but hopefully the rustic armour will set them off. Finally I am waiting on my Sterngaurd to arrive which will be some (adapted, when they get here) Forgeworld Corvus armour dudes, who I wanted to paint up in a way harking back to Rogue Trader, after seeing Ymmot's thread on classic models and then visiting Games Day. I only intend to sitch out their blank shoulder pad with one of the CF ones. If anyone's got any tips on the lightning effect itself (colour build up, etc.) Id appreciate discussion because Youtube will only get me so far when I can't ask questions.
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Post by kobracommander on Sept 4, 2012 16:14:01 GMT -5
Also, I've started some work on Kobra's Terminators. ...That's where my extra Terminators went! Give them back! As for lightning, its really quite simple. First pick the color you want the lightning to be...lets say blue. First you paint a lightning pattern onto the surface in a dark blue (I'm going to use old colors here: Regal Blue) Make the lines fairly thick. Then, once dry you paint inside that design with thinner lines of a lighter shade blue (enchanted blue) Just keep doing this to build up to white. I usually do three layers, so Regal, Enchanted, Ice. Once you get to white that's where things get tricky. Since your patter is very rigid the lightning doesn't quite look real. This is where the final step comes in. Paint on the white, but make it really "squiggly". Use the lightning pattern as a guide, but don't follow it perfectly. Make sure that sometimes the white goes "outside the lines." This will make the lightning come alive and look much more realistic. Hope that helps...I want my terminators back......
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Post by 3ff3ct on Sept 5, 2012 3:52:11 GMT -5
Make sure you don't do just three layers though, otherwise it'll be stripey. Mix inbetween the colours (IE Regal, Regal 3:1 Enchanted, Regal 1:1 Enchanted, Regal 1:3 Enchanted etc etc) That way you will get a smooth transition. Also, only use pure white on the very extreme edges, as a tiny dot to suggest reflected light source. Otherwise it'll look very artificial. I obviously learnt this the hard way....! Also, if the termies are going to look 'uninspiring', why not add some battle damage?
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Post by optimat on Sept 5, 2012 12:58:20 GMT -5
Certainly worth doing as I want them to look very rustic and worn which I was going to achieve with some simple drybrushing, some damage can't hurt!
I need to get myself a 4th blue. At the moment I have Kantor Blue (sort of Regal blue), Enchanted blue, and the Ice Blue equivalent that I can't remember right now. After doing the captain and experimenting with mixed Enchanted/Kantor I'd love to have a consistent colour to use across the squad.
I've been watching lightning Youtube videos and people seem fond of fading from dark at the hilt to light at the tip prior to adding the actual sparks. I think I want to try and make mine the other way around so that it's lighter at the hilt - which I imagine would be where the power source is.
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Post by optimat on Sept 12, 2012 2:10:27 GMT -5
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