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Post by Julian Sharps on Jan 3, 2013 2:00:39 GMT -5
Frag, not flakk. Hopefully if that happens they'll FAQ the Guard ML's to have flakk missiles also. Either that or release a Hydra model ... Ooooohhhh... Can you tell its been a while since I've had a match? Flakk Missiles are basically weaker Krak Missiles that hit Flyers at normal BS, as opposed to the normal BS 1. So far, the only codex to have them is the new Chaos 'dex, although it appears that Dark Angels will have them as well when they get their update.
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Post by Soap on Jan 3, 2013 8:13:27 GMT -5
Ohhhhh a plastic Thunderhawk!
*Drool*
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Post by Soap on Jan 4, 2013 12:13:25 GMT -5
At last GW have announced that Dark Angles are getting new stuff! WD out tomorrow! :-D
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Post by Ponen19 on Jan 4, 2013 12:33:26 GMT -5
Official preorder for the new 'dex starts tomorrow, should be released in two weeks. Already have mine on reserve from my usual shop.
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Post by Soap on Jan 4, 2013 13:07:17 GMT -5
Yeah, think ill have to do the same :-p
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Post by WestRider on Jan 5, 2013 0:02:20 GMT -5
They're up for Advance Order. I'm liking all of them rather better now I've seen better pics. Still not a big fan of the special Speeder, but at this point it's pretty much just the cupula that bugs me.
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Post by Soap on Jan 5, 2013 2:59:17 GMT -5
Oh my god that's just amazing. Wish I hadn't spent my Christmas money already. Should have enough left for the codex though :-D
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Post by Ponen19 on Jan 5, 2013 8:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah that speeder looks better with the different pics, the front gunner looks a little akward, but at least theres a variant that doesnt include the flying church. Those knights look freaking awesome though.
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Post by vegna on Jan 5, 2013 8:33:49 GMT -5
and the sites down for maintenance? HA!
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 5, 2013 9:34:22 GMT -5
Just saw these things in the email this morning. Space marines have no cares about wind resistance or aerodynamics. Such is the nature of chaos!
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Post by vegna on Jan 5, 2013 12:27:38 GMT -5
other than the standard bearer I hate all of it! even the jet fighter has a temple carved in to it -_-
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 9, 2013 16:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by Ponen19 on Jan 9, 2013 17:49:18 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting stuff there. Glad to see Azrael is more useful now.
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Post by emptyhat on Jan 9, 2013 18:26:15 GMT -5
other than the standard bearer I hate all of it! even the jet fighter has a temple carved in to it -_- Did you look at the later pictures of the jet. You can build it without. Personally the jet, sans cathedral, works for me.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 10, 2013 14:08:44 GMT -5
T5 terminators if you bunch them up together?
*cough* Demolishers *cough*
Edit - although I've seen too many Lemans get pulverised by termies...
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Post by Soap on Jan 10, 2013 16:04:21 GMT -5
How long till someone uses the original land speeder to make the new dark angle one look normal?! I was thinking this as I flicked through the white dwarf mag I finally managed to get today. Chop the two in half(ish) and put the front of the old one on the new one. Jobs a goodun!
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 10, 2013 16:13:55 GMT -5
How long till someone uses the original land speeder to make the new dark angle one look normal?! I was thinking this as I flicked through the white dwarf mag I finally managed to get today. Chop the two in half(ish) and put the front of the old one on the new one. Jobs a goodun! I was trying to talk a friend of mine out of getting the DJ speeder, and told him he'd be better off trying to convert one using a Storm.
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Post by Soap on Jan 10, 2013 17:46:33 GMT -5
I do actually like the model. But the front does look a bit odd like. Well, I suppose in the far future they is no aerodynamics!
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 10, 2013 17:54:18 GMT -5
I don't like the model at all, and even if I did, the price for it ($65?) is ridiculous. The Storm is $30, and with some bits and plasticard could probably be converted to look better than the actual Vengeance model, plus then you'd also have a ton of cool Scout bits leftover to do whatever you want with.
<.< >.>
I do have to admit that the Nephilim build of the Derp Talon kit actually isn't hideous, and I'd be somewhat partial to it. But again, it's $75...
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Post by vegna on Jan 10, 2013 18:54:04 GMT -5
other than the standard bearer I hate all of it! even the jet fighter has a temple carved in to it -_- Did you look at the later pictures of the jet. You can build it without. Personally the jet, sans cathedral, works for me. I'd rather they skip the cathedral part and add an alternate nose so it doesnt look like is fly in to a post and squish in its nose
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Post by AshotNINJA on Jan 10, 2013 20:25:42 GMT -5
i really like the new dark talon flyer... im gonna get a closer look at it first though to see how it goes together... i reckon, adding a longer nose section with a thinner cannon underneath , extending the tail section, and facing the wings backwards, it would be a really nice stand in for a thunderbolt or a lightning.... but im still shocked its £45 ... while the stormtalon is £30 and its not really that much larger from what i can tell by pictures (except wings )
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 11, 2013 14:39:18 GMT -5
^
I've made a stormtalon and you don't get many spare bitz in there, like you'd normally have left over. All you get are the typhoon/ skyhammer plates and 2 heavy bolters, literally. IDK whether an extra frame of plastic is worth £15 more, but extra frames get charged. Storm talon has 2 frames only.
I'm even willing to bet a fiver that eventually the stormtalon will be remade into a dual kit, just to add an extra frame in there and up the price. In fact, in the new crusade of fire campaign book, the extra dogfighting rules mention that most factions, including Space Wolves, will eventually have flyers.
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Post by WestRider on Jan 13, 2013 13:56:54 GMT -5
Finally got a decent look through the rules. Most of the special stuff looks overpriced, if not outright garbage (Ravenwing Knights, Azrael, and some of the Standards seeming to be exceptions), but a lot of the basic stuff is looking great. Their Tactical Squads work differently to anyone else's, with some cool possibilities there, and their Devs are awesomely cheap.
Most of the standard SM Vehicles look as solid as ever, and much of the special stuff is too overpriced to lean on, but worth splashing as support on top of a solid core of green.
Since I have most of the 5th Company, and not much of the specialist stuff, this makes me very happy ;D
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Post by Ponen19 on Jan 13, 2013 15:08:35 GMT -5
The darkshroud speeder is kinda dumb, nice boosts I guess, but not much of a wow factor. The flyers seems kinda cool, the nephilim is almost a vendetta.
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Post by WestRider on Jan 13, 2013 15:17:06 GMT -5
The Nephilim is almost a Vendetta, but it costs almost a Vendetta and a half. If you compare it to a Storm Talon (already kind of pricy for what it does), it really starts looking hideously expensive, basically paying 50 Points for an extra Hull Point and some crappy Missiles.
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