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Post by littlemac on Apr 17, 2014 11:09:48 GMT -5
Is it just me or is Harker completely pointless in the new codex? He costs the exact same in points, yet loses Feel No Pain and Catachan Devils. Is a rending heavy bolter really worth that price?
Am I missing something?
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Post by Julian Sharps on Apr 17, 2014 11:26:36 GMT -5
A rending heavy bolter that can fire at full BS on the move and scores Precision Shots on a 6 to hit, but no, he's probably not worth taking anymore.
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Post by littlemac on Apr 17, 2014 17:33:05 GMT -5
I liked taking him because of the Catachan Devils rule- his squad could infiltrate, move through cover, AND had stealth. I don't see how GW thought losing all that and gaining rending comes out to a fair trade.
Relentless is nice, but chances are everyone is going to want to put heavy weapons in his vet squad, rendering it pretty much moot. What were they thinking? :/
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Post by yvain on Apr 18, 2014 5:43:12 GMT -5
He does grant relentless to the whole squad. However, that is still pretty useless. Why would I guy him when he costs the price of a whole Veteran squad? He gets no survivability upgrade and no methods for moving his troopers into range. I could buy a Taurox for his price and increase speed and durability while getting a free auto cannon, which is a stronger weapon minus the rending.
And it is not fluffy at all. Now he just works out a lot and can help carry some other dudes gun.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Apr 18, 2014 20:36:10 GMT -5
I'm going to experiment with sticking a "hunting cannon" (AC) team in with him and see what happens. Maybe we'll get a 'Chan data slate that returns him to awesome, and brings back Marbo...
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Post by littlemac on Apr 22, 2014 11:57:58 GMT -5
He does grant relentless to the whole squad. How does he manage to do that? I know he gets it himself, but I can't find anything that confers the relentless rule to the rest of his squad.
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Post by yvain on Apr 23, 2014 9:57:08 GMT -5
I rechecked it and you are right. It looks like its just him. Good god why?
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Apr 23, 2014 17:12:43 GMT -5
WAT? Really, only Harker is relentless, and the USR doesn't transfer to the rest of the squad... Sad trombone.
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Post by littlemac on Apr 23, 2014 20:03:43 GMT -5
Like I said, he's completely pointless. I look at Harker and wonder why he was even included in the codex at all. He is so expensive and does so little that even a casual player like myself can't stomach taking him. It saddens and confuses me.
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