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Post by chapwilliams on Mar 10, 2013 0:05:59 GMT -5
I know there is a thread about the colour of plasma but what colour are lasers, Specifically from lascannons, lasguns and laspistols, and what affect does firing one have, can you see a beam or a moving projectile or just a muzzle flash? There are no wrong answers.
ps. Please do not turn this thread into a discussion on the the physics of laser arms.
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Post by emptyhat on Mar 10, 2013 0:08:19 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what you want. Your last statement seems to be at odds with the rest of it.
I guess the answer is that lasguns work however you think they do?
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Post by Paradill on Mar 10, 2013 0:12:27 GMT -5
Going by the video games they have red beams and you see the beam leave the barrel and hit the target. The lascannon in SpaceMarine has a fair but if recoil.
Also, laser arms? A-MAZ-ING.
I know you said not to discuss the physics of it but I really think laser arms would be possible. If you cut my arms off at the elbow and installed a laser on the stump. I would have a fully movable laser, even better if its just below the elbow.
I know I'd have to have some sort of power plant on my back, but it would be worth it.
Then all I'd need is an eyepatch and helicopter and I could be a villain of wonderful proportions!
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Post by chapwilliams on Mar 10, 2013 0:26:35 GMT -5
ha ha ha arms as in weapons, latin and all that stuff. Anyway I'll rephrase if required. In your head when you imagine a guardsmen shooting a lasgun what happens? Straight beam from gun to target? or starwars style where it is a short segment of light traveling quickly? or just a flash at the muzzle of the gun?
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Post by Paradill on Mar 10, 2013 0:40:07 GMT -5
Star Wars style because that's what is described in lots of black library publications and both the dawn of war and Space Marine games.
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Post by Adkenpachi on Mar 10, 2013 3:47:30 GMT -5
Surly if it were real you wouldnt see anything, youd only know you hit the thing your shooting at if it dies...
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Post by Soap on Mar 10, 2013 4:41:38 GMT -5
I'd say red from where it was fired, but the further it travels the less effect it would have when hitting the target. So as the power decreases, I imaging the colour would change to reflect this, going from red, to yellow, to white / nothing.
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Post by Empirespy on Mar 10, 2013 5:03:52 GMT -5
I think it'd depend on the gun, as you could probably modify it to be different colours, assuming you can see it at all. Even though you wouldn't see it in the real world, this is occurring in the same universe as magical beings that go around zapping you with energies you can not begin to fathom, one in which despite the reasonably high level of ranged weaponry, almost all human officers carry around a chainsaw and use it like a sword, and were green fungus people live by fighting. So therefore I want red laser pointers guns that I can see the beam.
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Post by chapwilliams on Mar 10, 2013 5:39:36 GMT -5
thanks for the replies and carefully dancing around the "in real life...." conversation because I've seen that swallow up whole threads. Soap an interesting idea, didn't think of that, perhaps from White -> Red, high colour temp to low colour temp. Empirespy hmmm... I do recall Dan Abnett writing about Mkoll using a stolen enemy laspistol and that 'the laser bolts from his regular gun were stark and white. those from the captured weapon were dirty and red."
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Post by BG. Foster on Mar 10, 2013 5:50:47 GMT -5
Everyone knows its star wars style and its blue for goodies and red for baddies.
Sent from my HTC One S using ProBoards
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Post by chapwilliams on Mar 10, 2013 6:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by Paradill on Mar 10, 2013 7:28:01 GMT -5
Everyone knows its star wars style and its blue for goodies and red for baddies. Sent from my HTC One S using ProBoards Quoted for truth
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Post by BG. Foster on Mar 10, 2013 7:33:20 GMT -5
Of course it's true. It's the same with lightsabers
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Post by Paradill on Mar 10, 2013 7:40:41 GMT -5
Yeah but they have extra colours.
Green if you're slightly older than the guy with the blue one.
Yellow if you have a funny shaped head.
Purple if you are pure, hardcore awesome.
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Post by BG. Foster on Mar 10, 2013 7:43:38 GMT -5
This also depends on which game you are playing.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Mar 11, 2013 8:23:20 GMT -5
Banana.
Hey, you said there were no wrong answers. Where do I get my prize for answering correctly?
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Post by Kaikelx on Mar 11, 2013 9:54:46 GMT -5
In the DoW, they're depicted as a bright red in the first games (going "pew pew!" too), and the shot is instantaneous to my eye (guardsman pulls trigger, red line connects gun to target, damage is dealt). In DoW II, the guardsmen fire yellow lasbolts, which are also instantaneous.
So it probably isn't like star wars blasterbolts in the sense that it takes time for shots to reach their target. Color probably depends on model of lasgun you're using.
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Post by commisarblur on Mar 11, 2013 10:12:17 GMT -5
In the DoW, they're depicted as a bright red in the first games (going "pew pew!" too), and the shot is instantaneous to my eye (guardsman pulls trigger, red line connects gun to target, damage is dealt). In DoW II, the guardsmen fire yellow lasbolts, which are also instantaneous. So it probably isn't like star wars blasterbolts in the sense that it takes time for shots to reach their target. Color probably depends on model of lasgun you're using. One should also consider environment that the energy discharge is taking place. Factors like moisture, temperature, heavy ions, molecular compounds.
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Post by Paradill on Mar 11, 2013 10:15:11 GMT -5
Two should also consider the ease of each colour to create in a game. After all puce is very specific, where as red is fairly generalised.
Three shouldn't consider. It's bad for him.
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Post by BG. Foster on Mar 11, 2013 11:14:17 GMT -5
Three shouldn't consider. It's bad for him. This took a minute to click and now I'm sat chuckling to myself.
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Post by Adkenpachi on Mar 11, 2013 16:45:36 GMT -5
These early morning are making you slow, Foster.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 15, 2013 18:31:35 GMT -5
In Abnett's work, Imperial las weapons have been described as having "pure/clean" blue colored bolts at times, whereas Chaos las weapons have been described as firing "corrupt/dirty" red bolts. Having actually been burned by a Nd:YAG laser, which had had its output quadrupled to provide a UV beam, while working in a lab years ago--which my co-worker informed me was my official initiation into the "Laser Jock Club"--though, I find the description of how laser weapons fire discrete bolts in pretty much all contemporary sci-fi to be amusing.
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Post by AshotNINJA on Mar 15, 2013 23:36:38 GMT -5
i always imagined the laser colours from las weaponary to be blue... of course i know that in real life this would proberbly be colourless... but the reason i say blue is the laser pointers you can buy come in 3 colours, each supposedly varie in power..
red weakest, green more powerful, blue lasers the most powerful you can buy on the civillian market.
also blue (like said before) is for goodies...
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Post by kharneth on Apr 28, 2013 12:39:46 GMT -5
It varies by design.
Cadian Lasguns fire a redish pink beam. It is not a projectile per say, it is like a ray. In the fluff is says it feels like a punch, like something solid hitting you. It doesn't burn or cut you, like you may think, but bruises your flesh.
In the video game....
IG lasweapons are red/pink. Space Marine Lascannons are blue. Traitor Guardsmen lasweapons are green. Chaos Lascannons are pink.
I'm completely guessing here, but I imagine the colors of the laser varies based on several variable. The most common, I imagine, is the Cadian red/pink lasguns.
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Post by Paradill on Apr 28, 2013 13:56:46 GMT -5
Las burns.
Marduk certainly felt it burn the flesh if his wrist when Varnus got a lucky shot in.
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