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Post by cheminhaler on Mar 28, 2014 18:06:58 GMT -5
Just seen the full 360 view of the taurox, it's all up for pre-order now. Taurox Pre-order gw siteEdit -- it appears the taurox has guns on the side, maybe to shoot your stormies as they disembark out of the doors right in front of those guns.
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Post by vegna on Mar 28, 2014 18:34:04 GMT -5
well every one knows the guard can be trusted to be corrupted. Also it still looks crap, the Scions dont look too bad, although look more spacemarine then I think they should look. Also looks like Kasrkin and Stormtroopers have vanished, can find them in the search but when I click takes me back to the main menu... I was alkso right the commander doesnt have a cloak it's a coat I don't mind his look too much, but sort of makes me think of what would happen if you merged Creed with a Bretonnian
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Post by AshotNINJA on Mar 28, 2014 19:28:42 GMT -5
looks like the whole metal range of oop IG are back in the troops section again...
i really like the turdbox since they did the more military green painted one... im not sure about the circlar rear door... but i like that its got a cockpit... looks like a decent kit.. and the looks are really growing on me
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 28, 2014 19:33:59 GMT -5
Looked at the Taurox from all angles, and now I'm not sure if it is salvageable...
And holy crap, Ashot is correct, all the old metal Guard squads (except 'Chans and old school Cadians) are back in the troops section, and at not unreasonable prices! $35 for a squad, which is around what they were back in the mid-90's. WHAT AMS HAPPENINGS?
Chimera also now comes with a 'Chan head for the commander!
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Mar 28, 2014 21:05:06 GMT -5
@chem: It's not a gun, it's a flamethrower! That's even better, since literally all it can do is light the area the troops will deploy into on fire. I agree with Trooper, I'm not sure that thing can be made un-derpy. However, that turret on the top might look good when paired with a Chimera or M113 Rhino hull. If I still actually played, I might be tempted to get the turret separately if I could find it. Something about the look of the Scions is off-putting, though. Something about the helmets and chest plates, I think. They do look like they'd be excellent conversions for Chaos-aligned IG vets. Chimera also now comes with a 'Chan head for the commander! If I recall, that's been there since they put out the new kit a while back. BONUS DOUBLE EDIT EXTREME EDITION: I actually read what the Codex is supposed to be, and as far as I can tell, it's trying to turn about a third of the Schola Prognium into a separate army, which means it's "Codex: Military Academy". Wow, that's stupid.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 28, 2014 21:20:36 GMT -5
Ah, I haven't bought a Chimera in years, so it's news to me. Although, IIRC, that head is the same head on the Deathstrike/Manticore kit, so it was probably added in sometime around then...
And yeah, Codex: Military Academy is derpy, especially since (in the fluff) the Schola Progenium produces Stormies, Commissars, and... BATTLE SISTERS! So where are the Nuns with Guns in this release, eh?
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Mar 28, 2014 21:24:35 GMT -5
Ah, I haven't bought a Chimera in years, so it's news to me. Although, IIRC, that head is the same head on the Deathstrike/Manticore kit, so it was probably added in sometime around then... And yeah, Codex: Military Academy is derpy, especially since (in the fluff) the Schola Progenium produces Stormies, Commissars, and... BATTLE SISTERS! So where are the Nuns with Guns in this release, eh? And Arbites, too. I figure if they're breaking up the Schola, the Sisters and Arbites must have gotten all the Repressors in the divorce. That would explain why the Stormies are stuck with the Imperial Short Bus.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 28, 2014 21:52:56 GMT -5
Okay, I propose that the term "Taurox" now be officially replaced on the IGMB with "Imperial Short Bus," or "ISB," with the appending of "Prime" as needed. And, yeah, while I do love the beret heads that come with the new Stormies, I'm totally not a fan of the face masks, helmets, or their body armor... Although I suppose they could do a fair job of representing the Jantine Patricians from one of the early Gaunt's Ghosts novels.
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Post by yvain on Mar 29, 2014 8:09:24 GMT -5
Okay, I propose that the term "Taurox" now be officially replaced on the IGMB with "Imperial Short Bus," or "ISB," with the appending of "Prime" as needed. And, yeah, while I do love the beret heads that come with the new Stormies, I'm totally not a fan of the face masks, helmets, or their body armor... Although I suppose they could do a fair job of representing the Jantine Patricians from one of the early Gaunt's Ghosts novels. I think its is an easy swap to just change the chest piece. If you do the helmets work well and so to the berets. I think overall they are pretty good looking models, just off on the theme. Still not as good are your Stormies though. The Shortbus does look a little better with the better paint job and less pointless bling. However, the tracks....what the hell were they thinking. I think the rules are still pretty weak for it so I will probably steer clear.
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Post by vegna on Mar 29, 2014 8:57:23 GMT -5
I dunno if it would be possible to swap the chests, they look bulky and unsure how they'd fit with other 28mm ones. Also just relised as their ment to be assault troops, their transport is rather weak and vulnerable. sounds like their main role is to be dropped from valks. >.< www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=13800114
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Post by howscat on Mar 29, 2014 9:01:28 GMT -5
I just ordered them. Codex, two groups of infantry, and the ISB.
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Post by gamma016 on Mar 29, 2014 10:59:25 GMT -5
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 29, 2014 11:35:20 GMT -5
It does look like their equipment took a hit though. An increase to plasma pistols and a loss of gun-slinger potential. I am guessing that the power weapons took a price bump too, as they did for the scions. It isn't that big a deal for me, I am guessing this codex will be heavy on the "leave upgrades behind, take more stuff" philosophy. I hope that CCS gets to keep the dual pistols, or my model may need altering.
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Post by scotti88 on Mar 29, 2014 15:03:40 GMT -5
Is it me or does this look terrible, Taurox Prime / Taurox what the fornicate were they thinking
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Post by cheminhaler on Mar 29, 2014 16:52:00 GMT -5
Chimera also now comes with a 'Chan head for the commander! Reds is right, this was the chimera recut of the 5th edition guard release. The new Sentinel kit has the same head, I believe, if it's the one with the bandanna and large sunglasses with a cheesy smirk. Is it me or does this look terrible, Taurox Prime / Taurox what the fornicate were they thinking It's hideous but to each their own. This means I'll have to start carrying paper bags with me as standard gaming kit and try not to make my loathing for it too obvious. @chem: It's not a gun, it's a flamethrower! That's even better, since literally all it can do is light the area the troops will deploy into on fire. They're really going to have to make sure they don't open the doors while the flamer is burning..... :/ That's a very Tau looking flamethrower
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Post by vegna on Mar 29, 2014 18:54:39 GMT -5
lol just relised the cockpit looks like the driver is holding the other guys leg to me
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Post by jenburdoo on Mar 29, 2014 22:03:08 GMT -5
I'm desperately hoping for Veteran platoons.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 30, 2014 13:00:34 GMT -5
Supposedly the Hydra is dropping next week, and it'll be a combo kit with some sort of mortar vehicle, called the Wyvern, as the alternate build... BoLS linky.
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Post by Julian Sharps on Mar 30, 2014 15:56:35 GMT -5
Man, if those stats are correct, I could retire my Eradicator and replace it with a pair of Wyverns, which would pretty quickly murder the Guard and Tau players in my area.
For those too lazy to click the link above:
HEAVY SUPPORT Wyvern Support Battery 1-3 Wyvern AV: 12/10/10 Stormshard Mortar: R:48" S:4 AP:6 Heavy 2, Barrage, Blast, Shred, Ignores Cover 65 Pts
For a mere 130 points, dropping no fewer than 4 small blasts that against GEQs wound on 2s (and re-roll failures) and ignore cover saves and most GEQ armor, and you don't even need LOS to do it. If these stats pan out, the IGAC might start fielding some artillery and become a true combined arms force.
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 30, 2014 19:10:20 GMT -5
Order rumours:Split fire seems perfect for lascannons in line squads. No more wasted fire. I just hope that they keep combined squads, or up the access to orders a lot.
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Post by ogguardsman on Mar 31, 2014 8:32:50 GMT -5
Supposedly the Hydra is dropping next week, and it'll be a combo kit with some sort of mortar vehicle, called the Wyvern, as the alternate build... BoLS linky.So are they replacing the Griffon with the Wyvern or just adding another cheap self propelled mortar? Gorram I despise how GW has to add new models that are essentially the same as existing ones but have different rules. They can't just make new sculpts of existing units they always have to make new units with new rules to add to the byzantine mess of rules.
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Post by yvain on Mar 31, 2014 14:08:45 GMT -5
Rumor is for 65 points you get 4 small blasts at S4 AP6 with ignore cover and shred. That is basically the same price as the heavy weapon team mortar, with extra templates and rules. This begs the questions how cheap the HWT mortar is going to be now and if the griffon is going to change at all.
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Post by gamma016 on Mar 31, 2014 17:34:44 GMT -5
Is anyone else curious about the primas psykers, enginseers, and ministorum priests being upgrades to squads. Do you think that they will be like commissars are or like a royal court? I'm hoping like a royal court so they can jump from squad to squad where ever they are needed.
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Post by vegna on Mar 31, 2014 17:40:47 GMT -5
enginseers should still be an independent squad, else how does it get the servitors? the others I'd expect them to stay the same as before formation wise.
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 31, 2014 18:11:14 GMT -5
...and if the griffon is going to change at all. I think that there is a decent chance that it will change to "not existing". I can't think of a single model in a recent codex that has not been a GW kit. Can anyone else think of one? It will probably stick around in FW books though.
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