I was just thinking the other day, about how Vostroyans just kind of "came and went" in the Imperial Guard. They are fantastic looking miniatures, they are all metal which is awesome (can't convert them but they feel hefty and meaty compared to cheap plastic Cadians), and their lore is RICH! They make great all carapace veteran armies with lots of tanks to support them, and gives you a really good excuse to run tech priests in fluff friendly games
But they have no backing in the codex, no special characters or special rules to make them perform differently on the battlefield, and you just really don't see them that often in local gaming stores (not that I've seen, anyway)
I also can't seem to find any of their various officer models that they used to produce. Only the power sword and plasma pistol guy plus the company command squad. it would be ridiculous to run a power sword and plasma pistol on a 1 wound lieutenant model
Post by Lord General Armstrong on Sept 5, 2014 7:59:32 GMT -5
I think they've moved to direct order only, and unfortunately, I think that they may only be produced until their molds life runs out. Similar things have happened to the other Guard regiments, and certain older units across other ranges, I would have loved to collect an Armageddon army.
I'm sure most of the men in the galaxy are familiar with the sinking feeling that accompanies the words "Do you think you could do me a little favour, darling?", but when the woman asking the question is an inquisitor it's even less wise than usual to say "No".
Post by RedsandRoyals on Sept 5, 2014 9:26:57 GMT -5
Vossies suffer from a few problems. First and foremost, they were released primarily for a specific campaign (like the Steel Legion). Unfortunately, Medusa never really had the same fluff impact as Armageddon, and the Vossies never had much of an iconic fighting style on the table top(unlike the ENDLESS CHIMERA HORDE), which is probably why they don't show up in fluff that much. On top of that, the models are metal, which is always a kiss of death, and have a very specific aesthetic with a limited appeal. That means a fairly small player base.
I personally never liked them much, but they were always a very visually appealing army when painted well.
There may be no "I" in "Team", but there is a "Team" in "Meat Shield".
The vostroyans are a nitch army, mostly for collectors; being metal they are harder to convert for a whole army, but they do nicely as a under strength left over platoon. I had to have 1 of each pose vostroyans and formed a platoon in my IG army.
My bits'n'peices regiment could give a few of them a good home in the masses of miss matched uniforms that comprise my ranks. Thanks to you I'm certainly not going to order the officer with a powersword and plasma pistol.
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They look awesome, and I do wish that they had a special character. What GW should have done is had something similiar to the Space Marine Codexes Chapter Tactics for the different regiments of Guard, Cadian, Catachan, Vostroyans, Tallarn, Steel Legion, Tanith First and Only, etc.
There used to be a doctrines system in editions past. You could use the preset ones for existing regiments or create your own.
Unfortunately all of the metal guard are direct only now with GW only focusing on the plastics. Unless we see the fabled plastic trench coat kit I think we'll be stuck with only having releases for Cadians and Catachans.
I don't mind the Vostroyan range and, due to them being the newest, they seem to have the most variety of the metal regiments.
I can recommend the Novel Rebel Winter, read it aloooong time ago and its got some background to inspire ya. Theres also Commissar and Votum Infernus, not read them but might be some help.
I understand what you mean, coming from 3rd edition, the days of doctrines and creating your own regiments taking a backfoot, it all seems to be Cadians, maybe catachans, with the older models barely getting a footnote.
I wish i agarres collecting vostroyand earlier. I recently went through the paintstaking process of finding and ordering large amounts of money's worth of officers that were no longer in production by GW and now I'm simply dealing with the fact that they're all metal.
Rebel Winter is a great book. I still read it from time to time since it is the only Vostroyan fluff that really exists.
Yeah... Vossies were nice.. I'm half tempted to perform Necromancy on Major Downers Vossie thread now for Poops n' Chuckles. Never really knew too much about Vossie fluff, but, the Models were quite nice to look at I do admit.. Apart from the Chuck Norris Standad Bearer.. "I'm getting shot at... fornicate my armor, my solid abs will provide better armour than an Orks!"
But yeah, if you DO end up collecting a Vossie force or something, I demmand photo evidence!!
I have to say that I love the Vossies, and I have enough models to do an infantry platoon (should I ever get round to it...). as mentioned, they were part of the Medusa V campaign, and featured heavily in the Cityfight book, which I loved and played the vast majority of my early-ish 40k with. Yes, they are a bit wierd looking, although I think it'd be possible to convert some up using existing models and a bit of green stuff for fuzzy hats.
Have you seen any reviews or anything on the new Guard dex?? It's a once in a lifetime thing when GW answers the prayers of a Guard player, and you sir, are a lucky, lucky man.
Vostroyans now have their own regiment specific doctrines, orders, etc. I must admit, it's bloody nice to see them get some light again after cities of death.
However, muggins here is having to use Mordian rules to represent my Praetorians.. (Not that that is a bad thing). All in all, I think Guard are now the strongest faction in the game for now. My understanding of the rules my lean towards them being a little too strong. Have fun this edition mate...
I also request photographed battle reports of all those metal footsloggers and resin super heavies crushing the heretic, the traitor and the xeno beneath the armoured treads of the emporers fury.