Pre-Heresy Imperial Guard

[dethklok]

Ok so i was just looking around at guard armies and gues what i can no longer do vostroyans because one of my freinds has started them already. So i decided why not combine my love of 40K history with the Imperial Guard. And thus the Pre-Heresy imperial guard are born.
What i belive they will look like is this. just a standard cadian model paint scheme will be. Bubonic Brown armor, Gore Red Fatigues, Black Boots, And a gold Plated Las gun.

Now the reason i put this thread on is to see if anyone had any other info or suggestions on Pre-Heresy imperial guard. If you have anything please post.

[Deleted]

great idea, like the paint scheme ideas too. All I know bout pre-heresy IG is there wasnt an Imperial Guard... it was the Imperial Army, and it included both of whats now the Guard and the Navy, they were one. Looking up Warhammer 40,000 on wikipedia and then finding the Imperial Guard History would be an great source for you I think

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Imperial_Guard_%28Warhammer_40%2C000%29

Ill try to find a Pre-Heresy Colour scheme for the Imperial Army, if there was one.

[knight (M.I.A)]

And I think they weren't loaded with Imperial insignia. just file some away, like on the Lasgun and the helmet. Perhaps just a little changing of the helmet (GS or something like that) would let them look even older. Oh and the paint scheme sounds really nice

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

No Lasguns

Autoguns only. Lasguns came into Imperium in the 31st Century.

[Deleted]

Yeah, lasguns came later, the autoguns were still used, so I would say modifying your lasguns to look like autoguns and then take more autocannons than anything.... i doubt they would have lascannons. But they may have since they were big and bulky... but i think the majority of anti-tank weapons would be missile launchers.

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Pre-Heresy
Mainstay Weapon - Autogun and AutoPistol & Chainsword
Heavy Weps - Autocannons, Mortars and Missile Launchers
Special weapons - Flamers and Grenade Launchers

[Deleted]

what i was thinking almost exactly... sounds like modern day, or past war equipment

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Steer clear of all things Plasma
Plasma wasnt really added into the Imperial Army till just after the Heresy, it was all Space Marine Technology then

Also, Are you planning to make it like, A Pre-Heresy Army emerging from the warp?

[Deleted]

This sounds like a cool idea, i will be watching this closely. What will you be doing about vehicles because it says that some pre-heresey vehicles has anti-grav devices. Could make for some cool conversions.

[dethklok]

ok to awnser a few questions This will be an actually Time line Pre-heresy army. since no imperial armies where ever lost to the warp like that. and i think for tanks i will give them more of a World War 1 feel. tonight I will model a few things and mabye put one guy together we will see. thanks for your support. ;D

[Woz]

The Imperial Army also included Squats. So they had access to some amazing weapons.

[dethklok]

ok there is pics on the picture section ;D

[oh and just as a note 31st millenium was the heresy i don't belive las tech was released untill the 32nd millenium]

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Hang on, I do acctully have the Wikipedia one saved.

[dethklok]

yeah if anyone finds some actuall in depth imperial army stuff it would be much apreciatted ;D

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

The original Imperial Army boasted great variety amongst its forces; some utilising mutant troops while others had access to anti-grav vehicles. Each unit drew on the strengths and technology of its homeworld, and variations were dependent on a world's religious beliefs, level of technological advancement, social customs, and specialist industries. This led to the development of regiments recruited from a single homeworld, as men from different worlds would have trouble understanding each other's dialects, social customs, tactics or specialist equipment.

The Imperial Army was also in nominal control of many starships, and each regiment of the Army would be assigned to a single cruiser-size vessel, or spread amongst a squadron of escort-size vessels and armed transports. In this way, the deployment of a starship to a location would automatically bring with it a substantial armed force, who could be used for boarding actions, planetside campaigns or garrison duty.

Because of the sheer variety of worlds and subsequent Imperial Army regiments, a measure of standardisation was deemed necessary to allow the Army to function as a whole, although the sheer size of the expanding Imperium by this time prevented any true standardisation. The treatise that came to be known as the Tactica Imperium was penned and distributed, and a cadre of political officers, the Commissars, were developed to ensure proper and effective integration and co-operation between regiments. The role of the Commissars later expanded to include maintaining the quality and morale of the regiments they were assigned to.

Auto weapons

Auto weapons are weapons which use solid-slug ammunition making them the equivalent of real world solid round bullets. They are found in pistol, rifle or cannon form. Auto weapons are still popular among soldiers of the Imperial Guard for reasons such as while having a similar calibre, the bullets are capable of causing bleeding whereas a Lasgun's beam cauterises wounds instantly. Also its noise and visual effects are more useful against Orks. It was the standard-issue weapon for the Imperial Guard until the 32nd Millennium.

While autopistols and autoguns are similar to their las-variants, autocannons are very unlike lascannons. Autocannons are rapid-fire heavy weapons designed to eliminate heavily armoured infantry or light vehicles, and are often used by Imperial Guard heavy weapons teams in battle, due to its versatility and reliability. Autocannons have better penetration than heavy bolters, while greater range than assault cannons, but have a slower rate of fire.

There are also sniper rifles which use solid slug ammunition - although, like other auto weapons, they are restricted by heavier ammunition. The advantage the Slugthrower has over its light based opponent is that fewer enemies will recognize the report of the rifle, as opposed to the long-las' ruby beam

[dethklok]

thanks where did you find that stuff ;D

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

On the website I posted near the start of the board.

[dethklok]

new stuff in pic post ;D

[dethklok]

Army list up in the army list section

Linkage
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