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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 17, 2015 18:02:53 GMT -5
I thought it would be bigger  That's what she said. |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on May 17, 2015 18:59:52 GMT -5
I thought it would be bigger That's what she said. |
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Post by RedCuffs on May 18, 2015 4:40:13 GMT -5
Got to admit ... I was expecting something a bit more "Tweeky" size.
Exactly how much bigger than a Reaver is it?
Not too much by the looks of it.
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Post by RedCuffs on May 18, 2015 5:10:13 GMT -5
Well I think that the Warlord Titan that Tread put up has got to be the biggest I've seen so far. Maybe the "Dora" gun from Radulykan. I don't think tables should be counted really, They are models to be played on. Whereas the things like the Dora gun are models to be played. Here is the first pic of what will be my 10th Company Dropship. Not much to look at just yet ... just a jumble of parts really. And I've still got a lot more parts to get before I can start assembly. Hopefully it'll be more recognisable in a year or so.  These are jmostly ust the parts for the front and rear portions. I reckon the actual cargo container will account for 60/70% of the entire length and I'm still in a quandary as to what to make it out of. basswood (since I now know what it is). |
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Post by treadiculous on May 18, 2015 9:56:39 GMT -5
redcuffs: I'd consider putting all the stuff in that picture away and ordering some plasitcard
- my reasoning is that you'll build a genuine drop ship rather than an amalgamation of identifiable 40k aircraft bits.
I'd also make a draft model in cardboard first.
Once you have built the basic structure you'll start to find that 40k bits fit onto it, rather than the other way round.
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Post by dougeye on May 18, 2015 10:52:32 GMT -5
by the looks of it an imperial knight is the size of the lower shin plate on a warlord! so maybe 5-6 times taller than a knight then add the shoulder mounted weapons to add more height again!
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Post by cheminhaler on May 18, 2015 13:42:46 GMT -5
Instead of plasticard I'd suggest foam-board, which is easy to buy, easy to cut and easy to glue. It's sturdy and if you need the base to be solid just use a thicker grade of it.
Easy to cut : use a very sharp scalpel and a metal ruler and make lots of light cuts in a straight line once you've sketched your outline out.
Easy to glue ; you have to use all purpose glue , like UHU or Bostik, rather than superglue which melts it.
The only downside is that you can't spray it or use superglue on it, which melt the foam.
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Post by treadiculous on May 18, 2015 16:23:41 GMT -5
doesn't foam card rely on an outer layer of card stuck to an inner layer of foam, sort of like a foam sandwich?
this works and is light but may not be able to support large sections of plastic stuck to it without reinforcing rods and plates. (depending on the scale this may or may not be a problem).
I know from making my storm-eagle that the storm raven engines are pretty heavy and are causing a lot of structural damage now that a couple of years of gravity have taken their toll...
...and that's with GW plastic.
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Post by RedCuffs on May 19, 2015 17:59:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice gents, all noted.
Will probably use plasticard and foamboard.
But also the bridge panels from some Airfix pontoon bridge sets.
My two concerns have been mentioned.
That the weight of the wings is too much for the way I hope to mount them.
But mainly of how to maintain a 40k type genre without the whole thing becoming a "spot the part" competition.
I guess I should start by making the cargo body. But the length of the cargo body will depend on the wingspan.
So maybe the wings first ...
It's got to look like it could actually fly ... not like a Christmas Turkey with sparrow wings !!!
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Post by macknight on May 20, 2015 0:37:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice gents, all noted. Will probably use plasticard and foamboard. But also the bridge panels from some Airfix pontoon bridge sets. My two concerns have been mentioned. That the weight of the wings is too much for the way I hope to mount them. But mainly of how to maintain a 40k type genre without the whole thing becoming a "spot the part" competition. I guess I should start by making the cargo body. But the length of the cargo body will depend on the wingspan. So maybe the wings first ... It's got to look like it could actually fly ... not like a Christmas Turkey with sparrow wings !!! Just look at the thunderhawk, it doesn't have to make sense in today's real world, think as the future where technology and material in vastly superior to now. Do you think airplanes or metal boats make any sense to people in the past? |
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Post by treadiculous on May 20, 2015 5:31:29 GMT -5
heck, on the front of the old codex they had flying cathedrals.
Also, the episode IV,V,VI star wars spaceships are fairly weird looking and can be good for reference. The episode I,II,III are too symmetrical and sleek.
I would do some drawings.. lots of drawings!
then make a small cardboard model.
then commit to using materials that cost money.
and remember, the imperium doesn't use aerodynamics - they just us lots of downward thrust.
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Post by cheminhaler on May 20, 2015 8:17:02 GMT -5
doesn't foam card rely on an outer layer of card stuck to an inner layer of foam, sort of like a foam sandwich? this works and is light but may not be able to support large sections of plastic stuck to it without reinforcing rods and plates. (depending on the scale this may or may not be a problem). I know from making my storm-eagle that the storm raven engines are pretty heavy and are causing a lot of structural damage now that a couple of years of gravity have taken their toll... ...and that's with GW plastic. You can use thicker grades, which are much more solid. Conversely I've had a plasticard conversion falling apart years after it was assembled because the plastic glue failed or something. Reinforcing rods are a great idea for big coversions; anything drilled / pinned isn't going to come apart naturally without someone applying force. |
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 20, 2015 10:01:54 GMT -5
and remember, the imperium doesn't use aerodynamics - they just us lots of downward thrust. "If the air gets in our way, we'll burn it for heresy." |
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Post by cheminhaler on May 20, 2015 13:42:11 GMT -5
Space Wolves one-upped all the other factions with a flying brick/ dog head. The Dark Angels need a super-heavy flying 70s style discotheque to even things up a bit.
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 9, 2015 14:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 10, 2015 6:18:48 GMT -5
Still trying to get the picture up ... why won't my pictures from photobucket appear any more ?
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 10, 2015 7:52:30 GMT -5
Can you PM me a direct link to the image?
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 10, 2015 9:18:00 GMT -5
done mate
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 10, 2015 10:29:50 GMT -5
Responded. In the meantime, let's test a theory...  *Edit* looks like it works |
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 10, 2015 11:04:56 GMT -5
You posses great skills Sir !!!
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Post by treadiculous on Jul 10, 2015 13:16:06 GMT -5
that's an interesting route to take...
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 10, 2015 18:16:37 GMT -5
Sweet space macadamia nuts. That thing is somewhat dangerous-looking.
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Post by dougeye on Jul 12, 2015 11:58:53 GMT -5
The large one is great but the smaller landy one
not sure if three tracks would work?
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 12, 2015 12:26:25 GMT -5
It would make repairing the middle one exciting, that's for sure.
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Post by Woz on Jul 13, 2015 12:30:03 GMT -5
It would make repairing the middle one exciting, that's for sure. Maybe the running gear is easy to get to from the inside. |
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