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Post by stormv on Aug 15, 2015 10:37:16 GMT -5
noob question...
I know the first shot from Wyvern mortar is definitely twin-linked. Then the 2nd-4th shot consider twin-linked also ?
Thanks.
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Post by dangerrod on Aug 16, 2015 0:55:09 GMT -5
Afraid not. Just the first
If anyone wants to argue that they should reread the BRB rules for twin linked weapons
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Post by gamma016 on Aug 16, 2015 7:45:00 GMT -5
Are you sure? I've only seen people play it that all shots are twinlinked. Where in the BRB does it say only the first shot gets to reroll the scatter. If you twinlink an auto cannon both shots get a chance to reroll if missed
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Post by dangerrod on Aug 16, 2015 11:21:37 GMT -5
Yes, check the USR entry for Twin Linked, it says you MUST re-roll all the scatter dice and not just the directional dice, and with the mortars being multiple barrage that fire at the same time, you can only ever re-roll the FIRST template.
Everything else after that is rolled as per usual, however if at any point you roll a hit you may place that single template anywhere in the grouping as long as it's actually touching another template. This effectively allows you to "walk" templates in the group.
Re-rolling all the templates makes the Wyvern ridiculously overpowered, re-rolling the first one makes it fairly balanaced.
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Post by gamma016 on Aug 16, 2015 22:40:03 GMT -5
They say you must reroll all scatter dice yes, however with the barrage special rule you do not roll the numbered dice. For a barrage by rerolling just the scatter die on the second barrage you are rerolling all the scatter dice. I believe they say you can not pick and choose which dice you reroll when twinlinking a blast but must reroll all dice (I don't have my brb with me right now). Meaning if you rolled a 1 a 6 and an arrow, you cannot chose to keep your 1 and just reroll the 6 and arrow hoping for a better result. It never says anywhere that barrage second and third blast markers cannot be twinlinked
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Post by dangerrod on Aug 17, 2015 2:20:45 GMT -5
Nope, you're wrong. The BRB pg 174, Twin-linked blast weapons last line - If you choose to do so, you must re-roll both the 2D6 and the scatter dice
With multiple barrages you ONLY ever roll the 2D6 and the scatter dice for the first blast template, after that ALL shots are placed by rolling the scatter dice, at no point do you ever get to roll the 2D6 and the scatter, therefore you cannot twin-link multiple barrages because you cannot roll the 2D6 and the scatter dice.
And just because it doesn't say a rule, doesn't mean you get to make them up. The rule for twin linked blast templates is quite clear, if you're at any point rolling 2D6 with a scatter dice you can use the twin-linked rule, if at any point you're not rolling them all, you can't use the twin-linked rule.
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Post by cdrwattz on Mar 4, 2016 6:18:08 GMT -5
Got given one of these bad boys by my girlfriend!!
So just to double check, the first shot is twin linked and the second isn't and then because the second stormshard mortar is firing the third shot is twin linked with finally the last not?
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Post by dangerrod on Mar 4, 2016 19:30:05 GMT -5
Got given one of these bad boys by my girlfriend!! So just to double check, the first shot is twin linked and the second isn't and then because the second stormshard mortar is firing the third shot is twin linked with finally the last not? Afraid not, just the very first shot is twin linked.
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Post by cdrwattz on Mar 7, 2016 5:57:17 GMT -5
Oh ok
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Post by thiberius on Sept 21, 2016 9:14:46 GMT -5
Well, the new FAQ from GW is going to correct that.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Sept 21, 2016 13:52:52 GMT -5
Most likely because the GW team doesn't expect you to use one set of special rule (barrage) to infer onto another (twin-linked).
Though why the hell they didn't expect this tedious argument to occur is beyond me.
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Post by nutty on Sept 21, 2016 14:54:45 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure GW serves some lesser Chaos god that feeds on tedious arguments.. it's like every release is 95% crystal clear, and 5% discussion bait. The FAQ's are no exception...
Like the current ones on facebook: some of the answers durectly contradict the rules, and other aren't really answers at all.
The most hilarious bit though: people over here are argueing if the facebook files are intended to be game legal. Some of them are labeled as 'drafts' others are not. So have they taken affect? Are people supposed to be using them during their games? Are we supposed to test and give feedback?
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