Help finishing this 2000pt list

[sneakygit]

I'm putting together a fairly competitive 2000pt list but I'm kinda lost as to how to spend the last 140pts, here's what I have so far:

HQ

Company command squad
3 plasma guns
Medi-pack
Astropath
Chimera
Dozer blade

Pask
Leman Russ punisher
Multi melta sponsons
Las cannon
Stubber
Dozer blade

Leman Russ punisher
Multi melta sponsons
Las cannon
Stubber
Dozer blade

Primaris Psyker
LVL 2

Ministorum priest
Auto gun

TROOPS

Veteran squad
3 melta guns
Chimera
Dozer blade

Veteran squad
3 melta guns
Chimera
Dozer blade

Infantry platoon

Platoon command squad
2 flamers
Heavy flamer
Vox caster
Chimera
Dozer blade

infantry squad
Vox caster
Auto cannon
Flamer

Infantry squad
Auto cannon
Flamer

Infantry squad
Auto cannon
Flamer

Fast attack

Vendetta

Vendetta

Heavy support

2x wyverns

So with the last 140pts I was thinking either a basilisk with camp netting or a LR eradicator with HB sponsons. The eradicator would add another AV14 vehicle but I already have two wyverns which do a similar job. The basilisk would add a much needed ap3 blast but overall doesn't seem like a great unit. The other option I considered is skipping heavy support and adding a flamer/demo charge sws to each vendetta and giving my blob plasma guns which would help considering my two friends who play are both meq and I'll likely be playing them frequently. What would you guys pick for 140pts (150 if I dropped the stubbers on the punishers) to finish this list? I'm leaning towards the eradicator for more av14 but the sws idea is also appealing.

[Captain Zapp Brannigan]

Hey mate,

Couple of suggestions that I'll number to stop myself from rambling

1) Definitely think another AV14 tank is a good idea. This means that your opponent won't be able to focus all of his AT assets onto Pask and his buddy. As you said though, the role of the Eradicator is already fulfilled so I'd steer away from that option. Maybe a Leman Russ or demolisher if you want that extra pie plate in your army. You could easily advance the Demolisher with your chimera vets and together take on the brunt of the enemy's assault before they hit your weaker guardsmen squads.

2) With regards to your Pask Squadron, the load outs on this vehicles lends themselves to being a dual purpose platform which for guard generally isn't a good idea. He's got the awesome punisher cannon for dishing out the red mist to hordes of infantry but significant AT firepower too. If your keen on keeping your tanks like this, maybe drop a few things (See below) and grab yourself a tech priest who can allow one weapon to shoot at a separate target and also help the units durability.

3) What squad is the priest going in, the PCS?

4) How are you playing your 10xman squads? The lack of a Commissar, blob squads or a CCS who'll be hanging around to harden the resolve of your troops may be a problem.

5) Things to drop:
-The two vox casters are wasted as soon as the PCS drives away in the chimera
-You mentioned the stubbers could be dropped. They do decrease the likelihood of a good weapon being destroyed if your forced to roll for a weapon destroyed result which isn't a bad thing. I love stubbers and have them on all of my vehicles because of the rule of cool but they could be dropped if your scraping the barrel.
-Dozer blades on all of your vehicles? I'm pretty stingy and don't buy these for all of my vehicles. How much terrain do you guys use? Typically you can leave 1-3 vehicles without them and when it comes to deployment you use some forethought into picking the area with the clearest run and place your non-dozer blade tanks there... But then again I'm pretty stingy. Been playing for 8years and there's only been 3-4 occasions were I regretted not taking a dozer blade which isn't a bad trade off.
-Priest? What's his role? I only ever field priests in my laughable close combat CCS or more likely in guardsmen blob squads.

6) Spending points:
So if we go off the assumption that with your 140pts plus dropping everything I mentioned (60pts) you have 200pts to spend.
A) You could field a bare bones demolisher to support your chimeras and a tech priest to sit with Pask. -Disregard. 10pts short for that option
B) If you want a tank that stays out of the fight you could field an Exterminator with Lascannon, field the tech priest, and have to make less sacrifices.
C) Get two squads of 2xArmoured Sentinels with Lascannons (Or just plain scout sentinels if you want to outflank them). I like armoured sentinels because quite often they'll take out a transport and if an enemy squad doesn't have any decent AT you can assault them and 9/10 they can't hurt the AV12.

If you don't want to drop anything further from your 140pts except for maybe the 2xvox casters and you can easily just throw in the Leman Russ or Exterminator with Lascannon.

Good luck

[sneakygit]

Thanks for the ideas, I got wrapped up in school and forgot I made this post but better late than never. Firstly I should have been more specific about my character placement, the priest and the primaris will go in the infantry squads which will blob up. The vox is a good point, someone convinced me to include it before I had the Psyker in the list but now that the blob will have a LD 9 model it won't be that important. As for the pask punishers I've seen the melta/las loadout in a few lists and I'm inclined to use it because the rending from pask would lead me to target heavier infantry or vehicles and since heavy bolters are the same price as meltas and match the range of the punisher I think they'll end up being more useful. However the usefulness on his buddy punisher will be less due to no rending. I'll mainly be playing a friend who runs a GK list of all terminators and dread knights and while I don't like to tailor some more low AP wouldn't hurt. I'm considering the following:

HQ

Company command squad
3 plasma guns
Medi-pack
Astropath
Chimera

Pask
Leman Russ punisher
Multi melta sponsons
Las cannon
Stubber
Dozer blade
Relic plating

Leman Russ executioner
plasma cannon sponsons
Las cannon
Stubber
Dozer blade

Primaris Psyker
LVL 2

2 ministorum priest
Auto gun

TROOPS

Veteran squad
3 melta guns
Chimera
Dozer blade

Veteran squad
3 melta guns
Chimera
Dozer blade

Infantry platoon

Platoon command squad
3 flamers
Heavy flamer
Chimera
Dozer blade

infantry squad
Auto cannon
Plasma gun

Infantry squad
Auto cannon
Plasma gun

Infantry squad
Auto cannon
Plasma gun

22 conscripts

Fast attack

Vendetta

Vendetta

Heavy support

2x wyverns

So instead of adding another Russ I switched the second punisher for an executioner which would be effective against heavy infantry like the rending punisher but could also split fire using the order if pask wanted to shoot at a vehicle. I removed the voxes and dozer blade from the CCS chimera as it will likely be hiding behind the blob issuing orders but I kept them on all the other chimeras and russes as they'll all be moving up to get meltas into range or getting to objectives. While the executioner have 3 feet of range it is squadroned to pask who's punisher is only 24". The second priest join the conscripts to form a mobile screen for the chimeras and Russ that will have to move to get into range and will likely be in danger of assaulting units. I also gave the infantry squads plasma guns with the remaining points to add to my ap2 firepower and would pair nicely with precision shots and ignore cover orders as well as the occasional precinence. The remaining 10 points from the dozer blade were spent on 2 extra conscripts and relic plating for pask as his unit will likely be the target of psychic powers given I'll be mostly facing GKs and they are one of the more damaging units in the list.