Post by fullmetaljacket on Jan 2, 2016 10:35:25 GMT -5
good morning gentlemen SO a little while back i started a renegade guard army using the Siege of Vraks rule set... In this book a basalisk with a chasee costs 115 points while a towed/emplacement basalisk with 4 crew members cost 55 points .... i currently own 6 total standard basalisk and wanted your opinion on whether or not it would be worth it to run 6 em-placed basalisk ( with some good scratch building and converting) and 6 salamanders for 55 points per basalisk and 45 per salamander. putting the cost for 1 basalisk and 1 salamander ( with +1 BS, 10 point upgrade ) at 110 points while just one standard basalisk sits at 115 points .... It seems like a great option i think, what is your opinion on this ? does anyone use salamanders, are they at least decent, what should i kit them out with? (auto cannons and hvy flamers ) are they a waste of points ?? should i make them into griffons instead for 35 points each, putting more templates on the table and what kind of conversions have yous seen to make basalisk chasees into salamanders and basalisk into emplacements.
Post by highlander74 on Jan 5, 2016 5:21:04 GMT -5
I wonder to use them in my guard list, and I foresaw a good use for them as fast objective grabbers in Maelstrom missions, but then I moved into Krieg army, so I gave up with that idea.
What worried me the most is the space that a trio of Salamander occupied on the battlefield, and getting only a fast a BS3 autocannon. In the same role a couple of Centaurs is far better (not for the firepower, bat for the fast flanking role), or a trio of flanking sentinels with AC which are slower if they started on the field, but may get good flanking shot when they come in from a flank.
Nothing to say about the ultra-cheap basilisk... they will be simply brutal!!
Post by treadiculous on Jan 7, 2016 6:27:51 GMT -5
I think you have a good idea there; getting two separate units out of one kit.
Could you run the Basilisk chassis as proxy salamanders - I'm sure your opponents won't mind you fielding a slightly larger model (it gives them a bigger target).
I'd model up some griffon heavy mortars that you can place on the salamander giving you the option to run both.
I would look at google images of 'IG earthdhaker platform" - there are quite a few different approaches. Personally I like the old Forgeworld kit with the gun placed on top of a large X made of stablising legs:
Post by fullmetaljacket on Jan 9, 2016 21:13:38 GMT -5
treadiculous salamanders are the size of basalisk chassis, i believe your thinking of the cetuar a much smaller troop carrier! the salamander is the heavy scout vehicle, open topped, 2 crew in the back, usually has an auto cannon and hull flamer or heavy bolter fmj
It's a sweet idea. Treadiculous has a point about getting more out of your kit.
Off the top of some noobs head who's completely ignorant of all the inner wonder's with in these legendary forge world books.... *breaths* what are we talking about here? 3 in a squad taking up 1 fast attack slot?
That'd be an awesome way to get 3 more autocannon's on the board. I'd use them to deploy special weapon's team's and PCS's back them up with some chimera's. Oh my imagination just asploded.
Last Edit: Feb 4, 2016 20:16:06 GMT -5 by that1guy
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