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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 9, 2007 5:47:16 GMT -5
Articus, a city on the edge of the eastern fringe on a distant planet unclassified by the Imperium. Cursed by the attentions of Chaos, the studious Tau, and the raiding eldar. This imperial city will decide whether my school's approval to carry my club will continue for the next few years. The imperial guard stationed here, the 42nd and the 64th regiments are constantly battered at, while sometimes recieving help from the space marines. Guys i need help in organizing this thing before june. I need help, please? I mean i seriously want this city/plain fight to be good and almost epic.(thats why im setting the pts fer the game at 4000pts per army) Dont wry, me school's payin ;D Could anyone give me advice on the structure and terrain building? I could upload a few pics of the team if u wanted? Maybe help me with my army too?
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 9, 2007 6:25:36 GMT -5
question 1: are we talking about an ongoing campaign or a one time fight?
question 2: are the models going to be painted? will they ever be painted if no? what if people who wanted to play had to spend time during afterschool 'club hours' in the art department painting minis - no paint no play. teachers love the arts and if the school is paying for something that can be painted you'd best be knowing they will smile upon students painting it!
just some thoughts and questions to get you started.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 9, 2007 9:32:12 GMT -5
Answer 1. Its on going for a week but sadly with the same terrain BUT...its a 6 x 6 metre board. Yes you heard me. Answer 2. Its all gointa be painted, and becuase of the vast no. of troops i have in the Imperial Guard, its going to be a little more hectic for me. The others just do it after school when they get home, conference calls and webcams help.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2007 17:21:11 GMT -5
Are you in secondary? if so ask a teacher you can come in about a half hour early and bring in boxes and all that and/or at home. Get a GW hobby terrain book. Ask people in the club for donations and even stick together school desks with non-modular table terrain that you can change and make different small tables so more can play. divide armies into groups against each other.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 10, 2007 0:51:39 GMT -5
Yeah we've got the terrain book, but i think its just going to be like uhh....20guys and girls playing so not many more will actually play, just watch really.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 10, 2007 2:19:26 GMT -5
you should consider making it an ongoing campaign so the club can go on for an indefinate time if at all possible.
long tables are better than giant square ones. gotta think about how you'll place and move formations of troops in the very center of the battlefield. if you can't reach then you probably have too big of a table. making a long strip of 'battlefront' is the classic way megabattles are set up.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 10, 2007 5:53:32 GMT -5
so should it be something like 3 x 6 ? Im not sure give me some estimates, but i was a little unsure because of the buildings we were going to buy from fw like the cities of death. With a small river running through the board, kinda like stalingrad and st.lo together. Yep i think i'll do the campaign tb, maybe it would be a good way to introduce the others into warhammer. ;D thx
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Feb 10, 2007 7:28:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Articus one of the Medusa territories from the last summer campaign? (Italian part I think) I'm still not over my losses in Verdia...
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 10, 2007 13:37:14 GMT -5
well the standard board is 6x4' so the table is 4' across. do 12'x4' tables so that way someone can easily go around to the other side of the table if he gets his troops across or deepstrikes behind your tanks or whatever. you could do multiple 12'x4' tables if you needed to. either that or you could do a 6'x8' table if you wanted to do a more square type battlefield. this can be a bit tougher to reach the center of however.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2007 16:49:53 GMT -5
I would go for long table.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 11, 2007 2:14:47 GMT -5
Wasn't Articus one of the Medusa territories from the last summer campaign? (Italian part I think) I'm still not over my losses in Verdia... Was it? I dont recall (Im not a cheapshot if thats what u think , jus sayin) Anyways i jus somehow came up with tt name.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 2:34:20 GMT -5
I'm sure there's more than one articus in the galaxy
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 11, 2007 3:52:46 GMT -5
I second that..now back to the topic
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 4:19:30 GMT -5
ask a question and I'll answer it (not saying you havent already asked questions, I just think I've answered all the stuff you've asked so far and if not, please re-ask where you need more info).
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 11, 2007 4:25:22 GMT -5
Your assistance and help is really appreciated thx yeah, what abt water details and bits of urban landscape, are those easy to recreate?
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 4:40:19 GMT -5
water details are easy, just grab blue felt and cut out some pond shaped cutouts and throw them down. same thing for forests but you can get a couple little trees and put them on bases then just have them standing on the green felt cutouts for the area of trees - that makes em movable when a unit comes thru the forest; pretty slick way to do it if you ask me. urban landscape is best left to the cities of death boxed kits. I kinda hate ghetto home-made cardboard box/styrafoam buildings, and the cities of death kits aren't toooo expensive. if you have 0 terrain budget then cardboard is better than styrafoam.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 11, 2007 4:45:58 GMT -5
The styrofoam would actually be kinda easy wouldnt it? I have some here like frem those boxes when i bought the Graphic cards and hard drives for my com, would those work? When u say CoD buildings, like those basilicas and manufactorium buildings>? Tell me more T.B, im dying to know thanks
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 4:56:00 GMT -5
yepper basilica/manufactorium and there's 1 more I think. there's also some cities of death rubble pile and low walls set but it was a limited edition run - barricades or something I think it's called.
as far as free terrain, whatever works best for you given the supplies you have. you can take a hot knife to cut thru styrafoam in a way that it creates nice hill terrain. MAKE SURE YOU DO IT OUTSIDE AND WEAR A MASK. if you get 1" slabs of styrafoam then you can make tiered hill terrain with the hot knife, cutting at an angle so that it creates the sides of the hills. this is pretty easy to paint, then just use clear PVA glue (like elmers glue - they make clear stuff, buy that) and coat the top of the hill piece and dump a bag of flocking on it (make sure you have some newspaper under the hill so you can recycle the flocking and use it almost infinately to do a ton more hills with). this'll give you really nice looking hills - professional quality even; you can also get the flocking that best suits your terrain type (city, woodland, etc).
buildings are the tricky part really. cardboard does ok, but you really need to find a way to fill in the edges of the cardboard to make the piece look solid and paint it down with at least a grey spraypaint. you can do a thin distant coat of another shade of grey to add some texture to it, and if cut out bits of blister pack clear plastic you can put little half broken windows in the buildings after you're done painting - it looks really awesome.
what else do you wanna know about?
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Feb 11, 2007 5:16:51 GMT -5
Broken windows? hmm......how does that come abt?
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 5:26:54 GMT -5
make your building out of cardboard, and use playdo or whatever to fill in the edges where you have to cut the cardboard so it looks solid if you know what I mean. then take a blister pack and get the clear plastic part of the blister pack. cut a bit of the thin clear plastic out and make sure there's a 90 degree angle so you can fit it into one of the window corners. just glue it in place and you've got a broken window look that adds a bit of class to your building. I hope that made sense
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