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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 6, 2019 6:44:59 GMT -5
This is a brilliant project. Good luck with the scratch building of the ships.
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Post by borkies on Sept 9, 2019 21:47:39 GMT -5
I love the old battlefleet Gothic ships, honestly GW should relaunch the game and tie it into the world campaigns like they did in EoT/Armageddon. Are you still collecting them?
Those scratch built ships look great, you've captured the art and theme of the standard ships.
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 12, 2019 8:53:12 GMT -5
I love the old battlefleet Gothic ships, honestly GW should relaunch the game and tie it into the world campaigns like they did in EoT/Armageddon. Are you still collecting them? Those scratch built ships look great, you've captured the art and theme of the standard ships. Well I probably own enough ships to consider my collections complete, and I should focus on getting everyone of these ships fixed up and painted... but it is so tempting to add to collections. The scratchbuilds take a while to get done but it is satisfying to see the end result so I would like to do some more at some point. I actually just got some bluestuff so I might try messing about with that. I am a little distracted by repairing and re-painting some WHFB stuff right now but my computer also seems like it wants to explode so that might free up some time for more physical modelling projects in the place of casual internet, timesink, browsing.
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 16, 2019 6:48:40 GMT -5
Bluestuff? Have you got a link to where you got it from?
Looking forward to seeing more ships.
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Post by nutty on Sept 16, 2019 9:23:09 GMT -5
Is there even such a thing as a complete collection? Surely there's a couple more ships to grab
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 18, 2019 4:52:12 GMT -5
Bluestuff? Have you got a link to where you got it from? Looking forward to seeing more ships. It is the pack of eight strips from GSW. I bought it on ebay but it came with a little note telling me how great buying from their store.
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 25, 2019 18:09:42 GMT -5
Today I messed around with making a drifting hulk.
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Post by borkies on Sept 27, 2019 8:41:31 GMT -5
I like the hulk, are you planning to have it as another ship in a fleet or as a terrain/objective piece? That be a great terrain center piece if you were going to make a field of wrecked ship hulls for a Space "Iron Bottom Sound" style fight.
The great work you're doing in this thread keeps reminding me of the loss in dynamic narrative 40k suffered when Battlefleet Gothic was discontinued. -T
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 27, 2019 9:17:19 GMT -5
Dynamic narrative was great. BFG game, then planetary conquest map, then some Epic games, then some 40k, then some Inquisition. Maybe some RT rpg. I never got to play an elaborate sequence like that but it was great doing a partial one, or hearing about other people planning it. The rule book for BFG also had some nice guidance for story driven campaigns.
This piece is going to be for terrain and/or replacing a destroyed model that has become a drifting or blazing hulk (which is essentially a terrain piece that moves about). I'm also going to make some smaller less elaborate pieces to be a debris field and use the asteroid field rules for them. In fact I should go make some press moulds of random ship bits right now. Something I'm really liking about blue stuff is that it is re-usable so once I've made a mould and got the thing out I can turn it into another mould. This means I'm not having to weigh the use of each mould or being pushed into making things that won't look bad if there are five identical ones of them, each piece can be different at no cost.
Oh and later on when I've got some materials for making asteroids I'll make a nice elaborate Ork Space hulk with a bunch of broken milliput copy-paste ships stuck in it.
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Post by nutty on Sept 28, 2019 2:57:16 GMT -5
That hulk will look great with a lick of paint, what material are you casting with? I've used a mix of greenstuff and Milliput in the past; it holds detail pretty well, but it's really sticky.
Volcanic/lava rock is great if you are looking to make asteroids. A friend of mine used some as terrain for X-wing and they look the part with harldy any effort.
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 28, 2019 7:22:47 GMT -5
I've been using unmixed standard milliput for these press moulds. GS-Milliput mix is great but because I've only just started using bluestuff I'm sticking with Green Stuff World's recommendations for material choices until I dial making and filling a mould. I also dabbed on some liquid greenstuff after it had dried, to texture some of the parts. Lava rock is a great suggestion, but with a serious BFG drawback. When I make a bunch of Ork Roks and a Space Hulk I'll probably have to switch materials to something that can integrate bits of plastic, milliput and metal and then they won't match the lava rocks I've painted the drifting hulk now and cast and painted most of the other debris parts, I'm just doing the last two pieces now; pics later. An unexpected bonus is getting to practice my Chaos colour scheme has given me some confidence for moving ahead on painting that fleet.
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 28, 2019 19:15:39 GMT -5
And done. I got 3 Chaos Infidel raiders painted too. I'll post some Chaos fleet pics when I get half of the fleet done. I might also make a couple more debris chunks because they were pretty relaxing to do, any suggestions? borkies Centrepiece for a debris field was a really good suggestion btw.
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Post by treadiculous on Sept 29, 2019 6:54:58 GMT -5
those are looking great!
I've got some of that re-ussable mold casting stuff - its well handy!
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 29, 2019 9:13:44 GMT -5
those are looking great! I've got some of that re-ussable mold casting stuff - its well handy! What winsome things have you copypasted with it? So far I've done the above, a fairly passable Bretonnian Knight, a much more dodery horse, and a bunch of shields.
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Post by Walk on Sept 30, 2019 2:43:21 GMT -5
What a cool concept and execution leaves little to be desired! Do these have rules or do they count as a space hulk or something?
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Post by borkies on Sept 30, 2019 2:54:02 GMT -5
emptyhat don't mention it, you put in all the work and made a killer terrain piece. I used to write game missions/narrative campaigns for my old gaming group and the BFG missions were always my favorite. We'd link several games together with a army driven narrative, with supporting actions and it would help flesh out our commander/unit back stories. I highly recommend doing it for any gaming group, it makes the battles far more interesting. If you're looking for a fun narrative mission you could make a scenario where both or several fleets are fighting in a ship grave yard from a past battle/warp storm. The ships having to scan/board the different debris for some information/Vip/valuable cargo or something of the sort. That way you could have the fleets with (possibly multiple) unknown objectives before hand and its more a game of reaction than planning. Those hulls look great, its a easy use for any casts that don't go well or if you have a small amount of resin left over you can put it towards a useful end. I do something similar with green stuff and silicone rubber molds myself. Are you doing a certain theme with your Chaos fleets like a certain space marine warband, warp pirates, plague fleet or something home brew? -T
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 30, 2019 8:24:55 GMT -5
What a cool concept and execution leaves little to be desired! Do these have rules or do they count as a space hulk or something? In BFG when ships are destroyed you roll on a chart to see what happens to them. Two of the results are that they can become a drifting or blazing hulk, the model of the destroyed ship moves forwards 4D6cm leaving behind blast markers that mess things up for other ships. The blazing hulk might also implode later. There are also rules for asteroid fields which a debris field is a good substitute for. Also, I'm open to any suggestions for improvements, since I'll probably add a couple more fragments, and possibly make some more drifting hulk pieces. The painting quality for this was also set to "get it done as a passable level" to get on with other things. So that might be something that needs a bit more ummf for it to really look good. I used to write game missions/narrative campaigns for my old gaming group and the BFG missions were always my favorite. We'd link several games together with a army driven narrative, with supporting actions and it would help flesh out our commander/unit back stories. I highly recommend doing it for any gaming group, it makes the battles far more interesting. If you're looking for a fun narrative mission you could make a scenario where both or several fleets are fighting in a ship grave yard from a past battle/warp storm. The ships having to scan/board the different debris for some information/Vip/valuable cargo or something of the sort. That way you could have the fleets with (possibly multiple) unknown objectives before hand and its more a game of reaction than planning. Are you doing a certain theme with your Chaos fleets like a certain space marine warband, warp pirates, plague fleet or something home brew? -TThe narrative game sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I'll have to round up treadiculous and cheminhaler at some point to be fleet commanders and act as puppeteer. It would have made a lot of sense if I had linked my Chaos fleet directly to my 40k Chaos collection, who wear green armour and have a lot of Nurgley influences. But I really liked the paint job on the Grand Cruiser I ebayed, so much so I couldn't bear to strip it so now they're all going to get painted purple.
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Post by Walk on Sept 30, 2019 8:34:08 GMT -5
Yeah I REALLY want to play this game haha
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 30, 2019 8:42:57 GMT -5
Yeah I REALLY want to play this game haha Too bad you are stuck on the other side of the world pond. That said maybe there are some local players who'd help you get a game? AlsoI have about all the ships I need but I'm still super jelly over this person's ebay find linkThere was also someone putting out feelers for selling an almost untouched core set the other day. link
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Post by Walk on Sept 30, 2019 8:47:24 GMT -5
I just got settled here in Dallas so I don't really have a group yet but I do have the Warhammer Citadel a 5 minute drive from my place so maybe I can put out some feelers there. And when I'm off work I'll check some ebay
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Post by emptyhat on Oct 1, 2019 16:30:02 GMT -5
The BFG release was preceded by a WD article with some cardboard print out ships and the rules for playing a cruiser clash (2 chaos, 2 Imp cruisers). Since the rules are online for free you could totally kick it old school and play a Cruiser clash against yourself to see how it feels; cheap as free.
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Post by Walk on Oct 1, 2019 18:44:33 GMT -5
And just like that I have plans for the evening
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Post by cheminhaler on Oct 4, 2019 4:32:48 GMT -5
Like the new debris and drifting hulks. I thought your lizardmen were going to blue.
Welcome back, Swalkerfour!
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Post by emptyhat on Oct 6, 2019 3:30:32 GMT -5
Like the new debris and drifting hulks. I thought your lizardmen were going to blue. Welcome back, Swalkerfour! Everyone does blue though.
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Post by borkies on Oct 7, 2019 9:55:12 GMT -5
I must admit the BFG infection is spreading, lol. This thread has gotten R & I started on a small Imperial fleet of our own after we found a lot of Imperial ships, 8 Cobras, 6 Firestorms, 3 Swords and 40 fighter/bombers for $70, now its a question of opportunity buys for the rest. Also Mindtaker-Miniatures (where we ordered from) have a lot of 4 Chaos cruisers for $16 if anyone is looking to expand, they normally have decent prices for OOP miniatures. mindtaker.org/product/chaos-cruisers-1-x4/Sorry if I'm a little late but saw the discussion on Roks/Asteroids I had an idea based off my recent basing efforts. You could make Asteriods/Ork Roks out of balls of Cork. They come in a variety of sizes so you'll have a mix of scales, you can chip off sections to give a very uneven rocky look to them and you can sink parts into them for areas a ship crashed or the makings of Ork Roks. You could glue a plastic tube into the bottom to keep the base stand's peg in place and keep the peg from chipping the cork over time. Once you have the shape chiseled out, you can coat it in watered down wood glue to hold its shape. After that you could give it a coat of watered down PVA glue and sprinkle with some sand. Maybe followed by a 2nd coat of watered down PVA to hold the sand in shape. Feel free to use or abuse the idea if you want, the great work you do with your collection is inspiring -T
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