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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 1, 2008 19:57:02 GMT -5
The actual White Dwarf includes rules for the Deamonic Primarch Angron. And I have to admit that he is a really nasty guy. His profile is deadly but worst is that he comes with a retinue of 2-12!!! Blood Thirster!!!! deamons. When this unit is against you in Apocalypse, be your weak Emperor with you. But now the time of the Deamon Primarchs hast come (I hope they'll get us Fulgrim soon...)
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Aug 2, 2008 1:28:40 GMT -5
I saw that in this months WD. Nasty rules on that guy!
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 2, 2008 3:19:20 GMT -5
And how much does he cost? Enough to field four baneblades and a regiment of guardsmen? (well, if it's twelve bloodthirsters, then I'd expect that.)
Or a lot of nasty, daemonhunting kit? Or both?
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Aug 2, 2008 3:36:37 GMT -5
Hang on a seeec... ah, 500 pts + points for bloodthirster retinue. His soul was banished back to the warp at the end of the 1st armageddon war by a force of grey knights.
For 500 pts you get- ws bs s t w i a ld sv 10 6 7 6 5 6 6 10 4+
agrons black blade is a master crafted CC weapon which causes instant death.
[glow=red,2,300]OUCH!!![/glow]
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 2, 2008 5:44:14 GMT -5
He is one of the deadliest units in 40k I'd say. If you're against him and 12 Blood Thirsters in a big Apocalypse game you better make sure that Marneus Calgar, the masters of the Chapters, and lots of other nasty toys are there. Or you might have a big problem...
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Aug 2, 2008 6:38:31 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Mabus on Aug 6, 2008 4:31:56 GMT -5
I agree. Fulgrim wuld be fun. The book is pretty good in my oppinion....anyway, what model are you expected to use to represent Angron?
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 6, 2008 8:01:08 GMT -5
You'll have to model your own or use a deamon prince.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 6, 2008 13:43:03 GMT -5
500 points plus a minumum of about 250 for the two bloodthirsters.... no ranged damage... equating to: 750 points...or enough lascannon shots to wipe them out in two turns.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 6, 2008 15:21:32 GMT -5
That woulf mean 6 lascannons alone for Angron, if they all hit and wound, and he fails his 4+inv save. To kill him an 2 blood thirsters in 2 turns, you'll need at least 10-15 lascannons that can't shoot at anything else... Oh an please remember that they're all winged and have inv saves... Basically you have one turn to kill them with shooting. They'll be in CC in the 2nd turn...
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Post by Mabus on Aug 8, 2008 12:26:02 GMT -5
The best way of dealing with combat monsters (Literally in this case!) is to feed them one weak unit at a time in order to tie them up. This will infuriate your Chaos worshipping opponent! He'll be wanting to smash into your HQ and special characters while he'll be having to massacre his way through one guard squad at a time. The only problem is Angron's speed. If your opponent is clever he will manovre his Daemon Primarch carefully to try and avoid your canny tactics.
In my opinion the best way of dealing with this nasty character is to either do the above or basiacally assign every heavy weapon, tank, Baneblade and flyer in your army to kill him in the first turn!
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Post by Kassill on Aug 11, 2008 20:00:06 GMT -5
WOAH!?!?!?!? which WD is this in?
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Post by Mabus on Aug 12, 2008 5:11:31 GMT -5
The latest one. It has Dark elves on the Cover.
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Post by ReWolf on Oct 12, 2008 13:15:01 GMT -5
Considering he's a primarch, I'd expect ws bs s t w i a sv 10 9 10 9 6 7 5 2+/3+ At least. He's a son of the Emperor for gawd's sake... I mean, his current stats are nasty, but not as undefeatable as i think they should be
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Post by starwoof on Oct 13, 2008 0:55:26 GMT -5
Yeah, he's not only a primarch he's a daemon primarch, and the most active one to boot. He needs a rule that makes him immune to death or something. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 8:55:27 GMT -5
Considering he's a primarch, I'd expect ws bs s t w i a sv 10 9 10 9 6 7 5 2+/3+ At least. He's a son of the Emperor for gawd's sake... I mean, his current stats are nasty, but not as undefeatable as i think they should be he stats fit, i mean if you wanted to be realistic he would be perfect stats alround, think of the movie marines list and he would be much better. the stats are fine to work in the game
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Nov 15, 2008 3:32:40 GMT -5
Yup and don't forget there are always 2 Blood Thirsters running around with him. So if you gave him uberstats and then 2-12 Blood Thirsters no one would stand a chance against him
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