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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 14, 2008 4:52:56 GMT -5
went and accidentally bought the standard infantry box with 20 models...
so I was wondering, alot of you spray-undercoat your mini's, but i have no place to spray, so is doing it with a brush worth it? or do i really have to wait for summer?
I also bought 2 foundation paints and 2 washes: khemri brown, knarloc green, ogryn flesh and devlan mud...
now, as i understand it, the foundation colours are to 'help' the base colour show better? (i know the washes are used to shade)
Cheers,
Martin
PS: have a baneblade sitting on the shelf, need some backup for her, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 5:32:55 GMT -5
Painting is another option yes. If you water it down a touch you should get the same effect, it just takes longer. And you can spray anywhere, it doesnt spread everywhere. If you put them in a shoebox, (on top of something) and held some paper behind it that would probably do the trick. Just leave a window open  Not sure about ogryn flesh but the other 3 you could use, although the devlan mud could give them a dirty look compared to a factory fresh look (boot camp fresh?) |
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 14, 2008 5:36:40 GMT -5
I don't want boot-camp fresh - but not completely dirty either
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 5:41:03 GMT -5
Well you can use the wash to get some shading and then put highlights/drybrush over the area to get a cleaner look with some shading in the recesses.
I believe that newcomer did a tutorial for painting Cadian 8th and there are two on the GW website (the one you see in the codex and a darker one).
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 14, 2008 5:55:39 GMT -5
Thanks Serar, I'll look into it
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 14, 2008 18:19:40 GMT -5
update: the lil' guys are now undercoated black...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 18:36:37 GMT -5
Cool, bear in mind that if you do use the ink on your guys, that it takes forever to dry properly so do it at night or something.
The guide that I'm using as a template is on the official UK site and is under WH40k Articles > Painting Articles.
Good luck anyway, and post some pics when they're done or if you get stuck.
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 16, 2008 3:34:25 GMT -5
For pics, i'll have to bring over a friend with a propper camera -> cellphone vs Canon 1Dmk3... I have a feeling who wins....
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 17, 2008 10:39:55 GMT -5
should I water down the foundation paint?
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Nov 17, 2008 16:58:04 GMT -5
if your using them for the main painting then yes, slightly. I dont know much about using them, as I only use tallarn flesh for the skin of mine.
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Post by aeonian on Nov 17, 2008 19:31:10 GMT -5
What type of regiment you doing? is their armour gonna be green, and fatigues brown, or other way around? Also, the washes, when you do use them, don't water them down, and apply it on thick. Trust me, it doesn't look good initially, but as it dries, it looks amazing.
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 17, 2008 19:40:11 GMT -5
thanks for the tips, Aeonian.
Graenis: Vanilla cadians - as seen on the box - boring, I know :S
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Post by aeonian on Nov 17, 2008 19:47:19 GMT -5
No, not boring: I play the Cadian 8th, and they look spectacular! Just takes some time and practice to get good at it. Also, about the usage of foundation paints - yes, always, always always always paint over your undercoat with a foundation paint. It makes the reletively unrealiable citadel paints go on easier. Hell, you know how hard it was before foundation paint existed (heehee, I feel like a veteran now ) to paint red over a chaos black undercoat? Well no more! Hear this: undercoat: black basecoat armour: machrite red painted over armour basecoat: any red you want, and it look amazing! So I recomend as you expand your collection of paints (trust me, it will get unmanagably huge, and you'll even have paints that you don't friggin' need...I have like 70 bottles of paint, and counting!) to always have a foundation paint colour for a basecoat for every highlight and other primary colour you do. For example, the cadian 8th fatigue BDU's (battle dress uniform) are a pale sand colour - this shade is not friends with chaos black at all - you paint calthan brown foundation over it, then add your kommando kaki and other highlights. Works every time!!! Cheers, and good luck buddy!  |
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 17, 2008 20:39:47 GMT -5
Kudos to you for taking time to explain things. what foundation for skin?
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Nov 18, 2008 16:42:07 GMT -5
Tallarn Flesh is the way to go my friend
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Post by aeonian on Nov 18, 2008 17:03:13 GMT -5
ILG (Inquisitor Lord Graenis) has got it right. I always hated painting dwarf flesh over chaos black primer, but now you just tallarn flesh first, and then (what I do, at least) is mix it with the dwarf flesh to make it lighter, and go on easier. When you first apply Tallarn flesh, it looks like something you'd paint an ogre with from WHF. But don't worry, it'll look much better later. You just gotta stick with you scheme, practice painting on whatever you can get your hands on, and in time, you will improve!
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 18, 2008 19:46:37 GMT -5
Yessir!
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Nov 18, 2008 23:20:27 GMT -5
how did you accidentally buy 20 cadians?
oh well, welcome aboard!
good luck, follow the advice these guys have given you and you'll be in great shape.
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 19, 2008 3:22:16 GMT -5
Not sure - had them in the trunk when i got home...
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 19, 2008 9:00:59 GMT -5
Another accident..... Found the 'cadian strike force' in my trunk.... Now i got enough models to field a platoon of 3 squads and a HQ squad - and have a few models left over for varying weapon options  The tank commander from the leman russ should make an ok junior officer, eh? |
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Nov 19, 2008 12:00:26 GMT -5
ayep, the tank commander makes for a pretty good officer.
I wish I had those sort of accidents, did you go shopping at your hobby store drunk?(just kidding, I think I see what is going on here.)
now all you need to do is accidently stumble upon a chimera and you'll have yourself enough guys for a small game.
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Post by aeonian on Nov 19, 2008 12:21:01 GMT -5
Go to the Picture Post message board, and clickon Cadian 8th At Last. it shows a picture of my newest Cadain.
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 19, 2008 13:40:35 GMT -5
Roger, =I=. Let's have a look and see if i can grasp some awesomeness off of you |
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Post by aeonian on Nov 21, 2008 22:40:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the compliment, man  you make me feel like a veteran! |
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Post by martinlarsen on Nov 22, 2008 14:31:27 GMT -5
comparted to me, you are
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The tank commander from the leman russ should make an ok junior officer, eh?
you make me feel like a veteran!