How To Equip Tyranids in 5th Edition - Elites

[akaiyou]

WARRIOR BROOD
My analysis
BIOMORPHS
Adrenal Glands (I) - NO - I5 isn't all that useful and the point cost per model makes this get pricey fast it's best to avoid CC altogether.
Adrenal Glands (WS) - YES - One of the few CC biomorphs that can be somewhat useful defensively on mixed warriors. Just remember warriors should do CC defensively and never with the main purpose of getting into assaults.
Bio-Plasma - NO - Not useful for warriors. S6 won't do much difference on vehicles compared to S5 normal attacks now that all assaults are resolved against the back armor which tends to be AV 10. In CC this is a waste because they can't benefit from rending and you can't pump out enough of them to really do much damage.
Enhanced Senses - YES - Must have at all times, BS 2 is horrible on any gun, and we are not Orks. Make sure your warriors always have this, as they should always carry some type of gun! You may drop ES if you are taking deathspitters and stranglers because they'll scatter like mad anyway 1" doesnt help too much and if you are in need of points elsewhere it's safe to save the points here.
Extended Carapace - MAYBE - Shooting requires protection this is almost a must have, however IF you plan on taking a swarm army you can forgo this upgrade and get cover saves from your swarm. Swarm armies require you set up cheaper units so it works out well in any other case do take EC. If you are going for ranged shooting or mixed roles this is a very good upgrade to have.
Flesh Hooks - NO - Flesh hooks are our best friend in 5th edition but only on CC oriented units. Warriors should focus on shooting thus this upgrade is not necessary for them. And since warriors should enter CC defensively you won't really be in need of flesh hooks under most situations.
Leaping - NO - Such a great upgrade, but a total waste for warriors. This is for offensive CC warriors meaning NOT what you want to be doing. Raveners can fit the role of any warrior unit that wants to be 'leaping' around and do a better job at it.
Symbiote Rippers - NO - Pointless upgrade. Has no effect in 5th edition
Toxin Sacs - YES - Always take this biomorph! The stronger your guns the more kills you'll make. Tyranid AP is horrible compared to everyone else, however we have great shooting due to high strength and mass of shots so always take toxin sacs on warriors. The one time when I recommend not taking toxin sacs is when taking twin-linked devourers, because Str 3 re-rolling "To Wound" is very effective against just about any type of infantry. Your warriors are more cost-effective without it in that set-up.
Winged - NO - This upgrade used to be a HUGE NO! However 5th edition has improved it by making cover saves more readily available thus you can hide your winged warriors behind gaunts and the like for the equivalent of an EC and burst out and shoot at your discretion. Also remember if you take this, the warriors become FAST ATACK choices keep that in mind so as to not play an illegal army list. Note that you should NOT take wings on CC only warriors because you lack a good armour save to take return hits and even on shooty warriors this is bad because you can be sneezed at by just about anything after you come out of cover to attack and you won't get a save.

WEAPON SYMBIOTES
Close Combat
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Lash Whip - MAYBE - Decent defensive upgrade against CC oriented armies.
Rending Claws - Maybe - useless upgrade because you do not want to engage in CC. However could be useful defensively to some extent, looks very scary has nice psychological effect on enemies who are considering assaulting.
Scything Talons - YES - Best choice for warriors with long range weapons looking for a mixed role. This is more of a defensive weapon as you don't want to actually GET into CC with your Shooty Warrior but this will allow him to put up a better fight if engaged or if you shoot and assault. Plus it's the cheapest to get.

Ranged
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Barbed Strangler - Maybe - Very good anti-infantry. Be warned tho that it scatters like mad so aim it at the bigger squads to avoid a complete miss as much as possible. Not very reliable due to high scatter rate try before you buy.
Deathspitter - YES - Has possibilities anti-light tanks and anti-infantry however against tanks it is very ineffective due to the lack of accuracy of the scatter dice. So don't rely on it consider it an optional gamble.
Devourer - NO - Do not take by itself, because it's just not that good without being twin-linked.
Fleshborer - NO - Great strength and point cost but range too short to ever be useful. Just pretend it's not there.
Spinefist - NO - Same deal as with the fleshborer, the range is horrible, even tho it's cheap, the points you save won't be worth the lack of use.
Venom Cannon - MAYBE - Great anti light/mid armor tanks. Too pricey tho, so think about this carefully before deciding as the cost can pile up quick.
TL Deathspitter - YES - Best anti-tank for Warriors. can be used anti-infantry as well.
TL Devourer - YES - Best anti-infantry for warriors who are providing forward synapse. Much better than Barbed Strangler against opponents with better armor saves.
TL Fleshborer - NO - for 2 more points you can take TL Devourers making this upgrade pointless. Range also too limited.


Recommended Configurations To Use
GENERAL RECOMMENDATION
Unfortunately warriors are not good for CC. They excel at shooting or mixed shooting/cc roles, but never CC only. So steer away from focusing them for CC. Focus on shooting first and then add in a few CC upgrades if you want them to have a mixed role. However most of the time it's best to let them be shooting oriented only.

4 Warriors @ 104 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Twin-linked Devourer

- Most effective choice for warriors in terms of demolishing anti-infantry and providing useful forward synapse. Shines over all other set-ups for it's ability to take out any type of armor save through a shower of shoots that can't be replicated. Taking EC on them is crucial if not playing a swarm army. Take in groups of 4 - 6. Rating 10/10

4 Warriors @ 144 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x4); Deathspitter (x4)

- Your best all-round choice. Able to take on both light vehicles and heavy infantry. Due to it's 24" range this is a great unit to use as forward/mid range synapse. Take EC depending on what your troop choices are, if you are playing with lots of gaunts there's no need for EC however in any other situation do take EC. A group of 4+ always to ensure that whatever is hit, is hit hard. Rating 9/10

5 Warriors @ 157 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Scything Talons (x4); Deathspitter (x4); Barbed Strangler (x1)

- Another dedicated anti-infantry squad. Keep it small as the BS will be your main weapon and keep it outside of 30" range in cover to maximize it's usefulness against infantry. Dropping Large Blasts without any retaliation from most infantry units. Quite unreliable due to scatter but when it does hit, it will yield high rewards to make it worth taking. These guys can hold their own in CC and have anti-light vehicle power as well as added anti-infantry power at 24" range with deathspittersRating 8/10

3 Warriors @ 118 Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x3); Deathspitter (x3); Venom Cannon (x1)

- Use this for anti-tank. If you really want a venom cannon this is the set-up you should go with as deathspitter can support within range. No EC on this unit instead deploy it behind cover and leave it there all game as a synapse node and a threat to any Light or Mid armor vehicle within range of the VC. Keep it small for better cover use and because you'll mainly make use of the VC. Rating 7/10

4 Warriors @ 160 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Winged; Twin-linked Devourer

- If you REALLY want wings on your warriors, this is a very good set up to use. It capitalizes on the awesome infantry demolishing power of the TL Devourers + The added range and mobility of wings to make what's arguably the deadliest anti-infantry unit in our codex. This unit is so good that it's point cost is absurd as a counter-balance so I would prefer not to even use it. Use it to take out the enemy troops that enjoy sitting at the back away from harm's way. With TL Devourers you should always take 4-6 warriors to really get the bang for your buck. Remember even tho it's useable you have much better options and keep them in cover behind your other units! These guys are extremely fragile unprotected. Rating 6/10

NOTE: Lictors have no changeable equipment, so best advice I offer is not to bother taking them unless it's on groups of 2+

[Ymmot (M.I.A)]

not bad, I use toxic sacs, deathspitters, and sything talons on my warriors, played around with both enhanced senses and extended carapace too.

[WestRider]

I think part of the reason you've had poor results with CC Warriors is that your Broods are too small. 4 is the absolute minimum for a Warrior Brood, and at 1500 Points or above, I'd never take less than 5. CC Warriors should have 5, 6 at 1500 Points or more. Some builds I've had success with:

Basic Warrior: +S, +BS, +Sv, DeathSpitter, Scything Talons. A nice cheap all-rounder option. I usually run these guys in a Brood of 5-6. One usually swaps his DeathSpitter for a Venom Cannon, and another sometimes takes a Lash Whip instead of the ScyTals if I'm playing against Orks, Chaos, or another CC-heavy Army.

Same as above, but with Devourers instead of the DeathSpitters: Became much better in 5th Ed, now that they can Run in the first Turn, and thus actually spend more of the game in range to shoot. Even when they're not Twin-Linked, 16-20 Devourer Shots rack up the hits. I prefer a Barbed Strangler as the Heavy Weapon for this Brood, as its Strength matches the Devourers.

Combat Warriors: I like mini-Screamer-Killers: +S, +Sv, +WS, 2xScyTals, Flesh Hooks, Bio-Plasma. +I if you've got the Points. That's 5 S5 Attacks per Warrior on the Charge, plus an extra one at S6 I10! Depending on how you run your Army, Leaping might be good for CombatWarriors, but I usually use them as a Counter-Assault force, so I get by fine without it. Again, one or two might want to take a Lash Whip against certain Opponents.

Wargoyles: Wings, +S, +BS, FleshBorers, ScyTals, Bio-Plasma. Maybe add +WS and/or +I if you've really got Points to throw around. Ridiculously expensive, but a lot of fun. Run a Brood of Gargoyles around with them to provide Cover Saves, fly up to something tough and let loose with 10-12 S6 Living Ammo shots, followed by 20-24 S5 Attacks and 5-6 at S6 I8. The Wings compensate for the short Range of the FleshBorers and let you get some use out of this surprisingly strong, but short Ranged Weapon.

Also very nice to add a Flyrant into the mix so you can "stair-step" the Cover Saves: Gargoyles are usually too small to provide a Flyrant with Cover, but they can give a Cover Save to the Warriors, which should be big enough to Cover the Flyrant.

[akaiyou]

you have some weird builds westrider. your warriors seem ridiculously expensive and inexfective to me.

I dare say you could use all those points much better elsewhere in your list.

[WestRider]

The two shooty builds are pretty standard, at least from what I've seen on The Tyranid Hive and from other Players in my area.

The Mini-Screamer-Killers are sometimes a bit tricky to use, but they really dish it out. Very effective.

The Wargoyles, on the other hand, are a strictly for fun build. Totally not worth their points, but a blast to use.

[akaiyou]

Well the first build is a waste of points in giving the warriors +BS and +Sv.

If you are only using deathspitters, then you are likely shooting from a distance and so it is much easier to find a piece of cover for a 4+ cover save. It's also easier to have a screen of other units infront of your warriors so you do not need Extended Carapace (EC). You also don't need +BS because the deathspitter is a blast weapon it will scatter regardless and reducing the scatter by 1 inch is not worth the points.

The 2nd build I already recommended, twin linked devourers are one of the best possible options.

The 3rd 'CC warriors' build is HORRIBLE and exactly why I do not use combat warriors. They are horrible only reason to use them is if you have NOTHING ELSE that can handle CC in your army. Those guys are ridiculously expensive and even more ridiculously fragile. A couple heavy bolters, or heavy flamers to the face and bye bye warriors. And they are just as fast as a CC Carnifex...so do not expect to engage in combat any time soon meaning you will have to weather a storm of enemy shots before these guys can even attempt to make their ridiculous point cost back.

Warriors really need some adjustsments in a future Nid codex to make them worth the trouble in CC.

4th build. They have wings...Warriors with Wings is like an automatic FAIL. Worst possible thing to do to a warrior.

Like you said these builds are fine for 'fun' lists, but for competitive or even 'standard' lists the only one viable is the twin-linked devourer warriors and mixed warriors that stay relatively cheap.

[WestRider]

You'd actually be surprised at how much of a difference that extra inch can make on the scatter. Definitely worthwhile in my experience, and a lot of other Nid players agree with me. I end up with them in CC often enough that the Armour Save is usually worthwhile there as well. It also helps against things like Lobbaz, Mortars, Whirlwinds with Inferno Missiles, and ThunderFire Cannon that can negate a Cover Save from intervening Units.

CC Warriors: It depends on playstyle. I use them largely as a Counter-Assault Unit when an Opponent gets into my gunline, same way I use my CombatFex. In this role, they can stay pretty much safe until needed, and then bust in once someone Assaults my DevilGaunts. If you're just trying to rush forwards, yes, this is a crap build, but they're a great Counter-Assault Unit.

Warriors with Wings =Fail? You haven't figured out how to use them right then. They're difficult to use, yes, but once you get the hang of it, quite good. Wouldn't take 'em to a big Tournament, but they're worthwhile for local Store Tournaments and stuff.

[akaiyou]

1. I've actually done the math and played with an without ES and the extra inch does NOT help that much if at all. Specially not for the points you pay. And i'm sure more nid players agree with me on this. -3 out of a possible 12" scatter is not much better than -2, specially when EVERYONE in the brood must take the upgrade so you end up paying tons of points in total.

2. Counter Assault? Sounds like you don't get shot at very often in which case perhaps they do have some use however they are still ridiculously fragile for something that costs as much or more than a God Fex.

3. If you are playing against amateurs then certainly even spore mines will do an amazing job. But any player with even the slightest knowledge of what your army list entails will wipe out those winged warriors the moment they show their head.

And if you plan on moving them around the board slowly from cover to cover then what was the point of taking the wings in the first place? Wings are supposed to be for speed, not for hiding. Almost every tyranid player out there will agree that winged warriors are a big fail competitively.

[WestRider]

1. I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here, since I've had a great many shots end up still doing something because of that one inch. It also helps if I want to have a Venom Cannon in the Brood.

2. I've got enough higher priority Targets (Usually Flyrant, Massed Hormagaunts, Gargoyles, SniperFex, CombatFex, maybe some others depending on what list I'm playing), and they're behind the Gaunts, so they've got a 4+ Cover Save and can usually afford to Go to Ground if they do get shot at. Generally doesn't end up being a problem.

3. Run 'em behind Gargoyles, around a flank. They get a mobile Cover Save and a bit of extra punch when they shoot and charge. Works great for me. GT quality? No. But they work fine in plenty of other situations.

At the end of the day, we're each talking about our own experience with these Units in our own metagame. I see this all the time on Ordo, where the Portland guys and the Seattle guys have entirely different ideas of what are good and terrible Units in a given list. Different metagames make different Units work better or worse. These are what I've found that work for me here.

[akaiyou]

agreed.

However i want to indicate that all of my analysis extends beyond what works for me. I also include my knowledge (limited as it may be) of other armies out there to decide what's best. Thus why shadow in the warp is rated so poorly by me because it's only useful against a handful of armies while other players who's area is full of these kinds of opponents will agree to disagree. On the matter.

All my recommendations are based on whats most useful in most cases. The builds i've recommended will work to any particular player's favor at least against 70% of armies out there. Because i do understand that usefulness does in fact vary by region and also by what kind of armies are popular in said region so I try to avoid focusing on what's useful to me only.

[WestRider]

OK, going to try for a different approach here, going for an option-by-option rating of my own, since I still think there is a fair amount of room for other approaches. First off, you need to decide whether you want your Warriors to be Assault, Shooty, or Hybrid, as many of the options have a different value in different roles. In general, it's inadvisable for a Unit to be given mixed Roles, but the basic nature of Warriors kind of forces them into that slot anyhow, and Shooty Warriors often end up mixed Role simply because it's cheaper to buy a pair of ScyTals than to Twin-Link their Guns.

This fundamentally mixed nature is why many players reject Warriors entirely, and it is true that 'Thropes will provide a more robust Synapse net, Stealers or Raveners will be more efficient in Close Combat, and Fexen are better fire platforms, but I like to have a Swiss Army Knife Unit or two in my Armies that can handle a variety of roles and fill in the gaps regardless of where my Enemy tries to attack my strategy, and in this situation, Warriors so quite well.

The next major departure I take in my analysis is that I won't try to come up with an overall rating for each option. Instead, I will try to explore the situations in which a given option is worthwhile. If you find a certain situation occurring commonly, you will find the relevant options useful, regardless of whether someone in a different metagame, and with a different army style can get good use out of them.

Biomorphs:
-- +I: This is mostly a defensive Biomorph. If you expect to be in Combat with I4 Units AND you think you will be able to do enough damage to significantly cut down on the return Attacks, it's worthwhile, otherwise, leave it at home. Mostly useful on Flying Assault Warriors, where it can sometimes go a ways towards offsetting their inability to take +Sv.
-- +WS: One of the basic Biomorphs for Warriors who expect to spend much time in Close Combat. It's fairly cheap and increases your Combat Effectiveness by 33% What's not to like?
-- Bio-Plasma: It's an extra Attack, for less than the cost of a pair of ScyTals. Plus, it hits at S6 and at least Init 8. Another very nice Biomorph for Warriors that are expecting to spend much time in Close Combat.
-- +BS: I'd take this for any Brood with Ranged Weapons. Even for Blast Weapons, don't think of it in terms of the miniscule increase in odds of getting a direct hit, think about the 11% chance of reducing a 5" Scatter to 4", which is often enough to make the difference between getting a hit or two and getting no hits on a Squad that's spread out to avoid Blasts.
-- +Sv: Mandatory for Leaping CC Warriors. I find it worthwhile in general. There's a lot of stuff out there with AP5, 6, or - that can take away any Cover Saves you might be able to arrange, and there's going to be more of it with the new IG Dex. Depends on your Metagame, though. If you get hit often with Flamers, Mortars, Lobbaz, basic CC Attacks, or other such things, it's probably worthwhile for the 25% decrease in Casualties. If your opponents mostly favour Direct Fire attacks, Power Weapons, or things with an AP of 4 or better that can get rid of your Cover Saves, not worthwhile.
-- Flesh Hooks: Only for dedicated CC Warriors. In particular, if you're going to shell out for +I, you should probably pick these up as well, to preserve your investment there.
-- Leaping: The baseline, don't leave home without it Biomorph for offensive Close Combat Warriors. The 12" Charge and 3" Support Range supplied by Leaping are pretty much the only (non-fluff) reason to take Assault Warriors instead of Stealers for an offensive force. Since I use my CC Warriors as a Counter-Attack force, I get by without it, but if you've got a more typical take-the-fight-to them approach, you probably want this on your Assault Warriors.
-- Symbiote Rippers: No longer do anything in 5th Ed.
-- +S: The one Biomorph that I really think is a no-brainer for any Warrior build. The 3-9 Points spent on it (including the possible increase in the cost of Bio-Weapons) will be worthwhile in any situation I can imagine. This is why I just listed Bio-Plasma as hitting at S6, since you should have this before even considering any other Biomorphs.
-- Winged: Possibly the most controversial of all Warrior Biomorphs. Some players have gotten incredible use out of Flying Warriors, while many others have found them worthless. I wouldn't mess with them unless you know exactly what you want them to do, and how you're going to keep them alive while you do it. Other than that, I will say only two things about them: First, they have substantial synergy with Gargoyles, and even more when placed between Gargoyles and a Flyrant. The combination adds substantial resilience to the fragile elements, and significant hitting power to the Gargoyles. Secondly, don't take Long Ranged Weapons in Broods of Winged Warriors. You're basically going to be paying double for the ability to reach out and touch people with the Wings, and the same ability with the long-Ranged Weapons.

Ranged Bio-Weapons:
-- General Principles: I prefer to mix weapons by similar Strength Scores. Really, though, just don't combine things with radically different Target Types. You don't want to be blasting away at Rhinos with a Venom Cannon while your Devourer-armed Warriors just sit there picking their noses.
-- DeathSpitter: The workhorse of the shooty Warrior Brood. It's got good range, good Strength (You did take +S, right?), and a Blast Marker to add on the hits. Can't go wrong with this in a shooty Brood
-- Devourer: Unlike the Deathspitter, this is an almost purely anti-Infantry Weapon, and it is further hampered by its shorter range. It's still a decent choice though, especially with the possibility of Running on the first Turn to get into Range faster.
-- Fleshborer: A really good gun that is unfortunately almost completely neutered by its short range. The only place I can really see it being useful is on Flying Warriors, where their Mobility can compensate for the Gun's short Range.
-- Spinefists: Really only useful if you have some dire need for ridiculously cheap Warriors. The other guns aren't that much more expensive, and they're far more effective.
-- Barbed Strangler: The Heavy Weapon of Choice if you're going for a pure Anti-Infantry approach with your Shooty Warrior Brood. 5" Blast + Pinning + cheaper than a Venom Cannon = a pretty good choice.
-- Venom Cannon: Got pretty badly nerfed by the changes to the Glancing Hit Table in 5th Ed. Still reasonable for shutting up Razorbacks, Land Speeders, and such, and quite nice against Open Topped Vehicles. I often take on in my DeathSpitter Broods, simply because it's only 10 Points more than a DeathSpitter and it gets two shots, which often amounts to an extra hit against Armies like Marines that can easily spread out to minimize the effectiveness of Blast Markers.

Close Combat Weapons
--Lash Whip: I certainly wouldn't equip an entire Brood with these, but there are a lot of situations where having one or two could result in a substantial decrease in the number of incoming Attacks. Orks and Chaos Marines both get multiple Attacks from basically every Model in their Army, and if you can get it into Base Contact with the PowerFist/Klaw, it can really cut down on the amount of damage you take. Particularly nice to have one around for Shooty Broods that aren't otherwise tooled up for Close Combat, and for Flying Warriors, who can use all the defensive help they can get.
-- Rending Claws: On Warriors, I really don't care for these much any more. Against Infantry, Point for Point, they're pretty much equally effective as a pair of ScyTals against T4, 3+Sv Opponents. They become a bit more effective against opponents with a better Save or Toughness, but ScyTals are clearly superior against weaker foes. Against Vehicles, since you always hit the Rear Armour now, a Roll of 6 + S5 is generally a Penetrating Hit anyhow, and on most of the things where it isn't, an extra d3 won't help much anyhow. If you face lots of Terminators, Nurgle, Bikers, or other T5+ Units, Monstrous Creatures, or Leman Russ Demolishers, Rending Claws could well be be worthwhile. Otherwise, I'd recommend:
-- Scything Talons: My vote for best CC Bio-Weapon. When all's said and done, an extra Attack is an extra Attack. More and more, 40K has been trending towards a paradigm of Quantity over Quality, Everything Counts in Large Amounts. Rending Attacks are nice when they work, but a relatively low probability proposition. Throw enough S5 Attacks at something, and it's going to leave a mark.

[akaiyou]

Good job, I like this post better than your previous ones.
Even though we have difference of opinion I think you were more thorough and it's good to see it in more detail specially for others who may seek help from the thread. Your second opinion would be invaluable.

[WestRider]

Random question, purely out of curiosity, which Tyranid forums are you generally on?

[akaiyou]

any i can find. check that 'waagh' discussion thread for links

[WestRider]

Ah. You might want to check out one or two of the Nid specific sites, then.

The Tyranid Hive is my favorite. Great community, and some amazing players.

WarpShadow is OK, but there tends to be too much emphasis on pure Tournament builds there for my taste. TTH is better for exploring the full potential the Nid Army has to offer.

[akaiyou]

Yeah the first site i ever registered in based on warhammer was warpshadow.
Dunno if you've seen me around there.

Never heard of the tyranid hive but i will join it thanks for the tip.

[3ff3ct]

Yeah TTH rocks, it was my first forum although I tend to lurk mostly on it now. Good rundown again Westrider, I have to agree with the majority of your points.

akaiyou, no offence dude, i think you need to take a more open approach when writing your analysis-s as they're kinda one-sided as you've probably discovered. I just think that although you're coming from the place of giving people advice on running units and making lists, it's probably best if you don't present it as fact untill you've run all the options.

[WestRider]

I thought I recognized the WarpShadow style in your analysis. They're some very smart folks over there, but they tend to focus too much on individual Units in Isolation, ignoring the massive potentials for Synergy that are present in the Nid Army list.

[akaiyou]

I registered on that site haven't posted yet. I'm waiting to post when I get a new game in with my tyranids so dat i can start off with a batrep for that forum.

[Deleted]

Can I congratulate both westrider and akaiyou on a superb round up between the pair of you! Great breakdown... I'm a big fan of the Flywar as I believe that tactically you should be challenging your opponent from many directions at once. I'm converting Termagaunts to Gargoyles and equipping some nice FlyWar wings from forgeworld and a Flyrant to give some awesome firepower. In my book the Flywar fills the role of both the Ravener and the Lictor (Neither of which can upgrade their saving throw and are both vulnerable to a powerfist in combat). Warriors have the advantage of synapse creatures at a fraction of the raveners base cost - plus the whole step-stair defence with the winged warriors providing a bullet shield for the 'monstrous' Flyrant!

Great work guys - I'll check out The Tyranid Hive too!

[Deleted]

from my experience looking into the book and making lists i don't think Warriors are allowed to have TL dev or TL Deathspitter....i could be wrong, ill go look at the book later

-Panzer

[WestRider]

They can buy two of a given Weapon, and it counts as Twin-Linked when firing (first paragraph on Pg.30). Too expensive for my taste, but some have gotten good results from it.