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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 12:48:05 GMT -5
I'll join into all this
Screen Name: ighr
Character Name: Ivan "Oiler" Vastheim Rank: Guardsman Specialty: Assault Homeworld: Cordan, Imperial of Athenor
Gear::
Weapons: Lasgun(combat retreival), Laspistol, Flamer, Powersword(Combat Retreival)
Armor: -No Armor-
Equipment: Backpack, Combat Harness, 3 tanks promethium, 5 charge packs, 5 frag grenades, 3 days rations, bedroll, one box Squigars(combat Retreival).
effective combat weight: 356 lbs.
Profile: Nothing says lucky more than Ivan. Nicknamed Oiler by his old squad, he was the squads assault specialist. Operating in a unit that was trained to use guerilla tactics on their enemies, which was often orks. He soon became expert at combat retreival, or in other words, stealing. Though never stealing from allies, he soon saw the dead as not having need of their possessions anymore, often taking a no longer needed weapon and discarding it once the ammo on the weapons was exhusted. Having been through 15 squads now, with him being the only survivor in most cases, high command became suspicious of his actions. While he had a notable service record, he had to be removed from the army regulars that made up the forces of the Imperial of Athenor. sending him on Gaurd Annex, he was freshly assigned to Delta, quickly aquiring a few new weapons off of one of the fallen soldiers, setting aim, he was ready to take on anything.
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 12:48:55 GMT -5
Heavy stubbers shoot people like normal guns.
Storm Bolters cause people to explode.
PEOPLE. EXPLODE.
EXPLODE.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2009 12:50:19 GMT -5
You make a very convincing argument actually...
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 25, 2009 12:53:58 GMT -5
This heavy stubber comes with incendiary rounds, which set people on fire.
ON FIRE
And IGHR, an Ogryn really doesn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 12:57:42 GMT -5
the fact that it is a shape charge bullet( aka: small missle) means nothing at all...
simple fact is that in the game world of 40K, a Storm Bolter is just that, an MG, doesn't rightly matter which. if you look at it, it is simply a 25mm put into game terms. shoot someone with that and guess what happens... they explode just as well.
Ignoring the recoil of firing such a thing, nevermind on the move, which in CQC you would be on the move, both of the weapons are termed heavy weapons. Firing a stubber or bolter, your not going to be moving very far.
Sad... oh well.. will change appropriately
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 13:37:16 GMT -5
Bolter shells are .75 caliber with armor piercing high explosive payloads designed to explode an instant after they penetrate. That they are a mixture of rocket and traditional bullet style ballistics doesn't really effect their damage as much as, well, their ballistics (IE, they have longer range).
THus making it...
...more damaging... ...longer range... ...have better penetrative power...
Ergo, more generally useful than a heavy stubber. Also more expensive too, both in the cost of the actual gun and the ammunition.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 25, 2009 14:08:23 GMT -5
1. The rulebook would beg to differ. Bolter range is not particularly well-quantified, most firefights in 40K taking place at short range. But I know for a fact a LMG has an effective range of some 800 yards, and a HMG can fire over well over a mile - actually over it's horizon, suppressing troops over the horizon. And that was in WWI.
2. I am in charge, I like the Heavy Stubber, and therefore I declare victory by simply deleting all posts on this topic coming after this one because I have no interest in getting into another one of Melissia's Soriotas vs. Guard p"ssing matches, or indeed any kind of p"ssing match. One man has a heavy stubber, and if you have a problem with that, you need to read my posts more thoroughly.
3. Cadian, do you want to post the intro, or should I?
2. Fluffwise, Guard don't have Storm Bolters. Fluffwise, they use the heavy stubber.
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Post by CaptainHindenburg on Aug 25, 2009 15:02:31 GMT -5
I'll join I suppose.
Screen Name: CaptainHindenburg Character Name: Paul Akaban Rank OR Position: Guardsman Specialty: Assault Homeworld: Arcadia Short Description of character: Paul has light blue eyes, with dirty blonde hair. He is tall at 6'2" and remains thin as he had in his youth. Paul has seen a lot of action . He always wears a cap and over the years it has become something of his signature, its light grey fabric well known among those he has lead. Abakan is no push over in combat, he is an excellent marksman and his lascarbine has been the end for many xenos. Gear: - Lascarbine - 8 standard las power packs - 4 "hot shot" las power packs - Autopistol - 6 standard clips - Combat Knife - Chainsword - 1 Canteen - Flak Jacket - Standard Issue Grey Cap - 12 frag grenades - 6 krak grenades - 2 Melta Bombs - Respirator - Backpack - Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer - First Aid Kit
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Post by Laughing Man on Aug 25, 2009 15:29:53 GMT -5
We have a pretty solid team.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 25, 2009 16:30:53 GMT -5
Indeed.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2009 16:31:18 GMT -5
Yes yes, stormbolters are harder to come by...
heavy stubber it is, not that it really matters in the end anyway.
I think we're about ready to start this thing with the crew we got, lets try not to kill each other until after the RP begins.
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 16:32:23 GMT -5
thingy move, RT I wasn't gonna kill anyone, I just like to argue (apparently RT doesn't)
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Post by Cadian 117 on Aug 25, 2009 16:39:19 GMT -5
@rt: Well I figured, as you're the CO, you should probably start it, kinda like a briefing. Who's the 2iC? Melissia: RT loves a good debate, but he is right, Stormbolters wouldnt be given to a guardsmen, especialy not mine.
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 16:43:45 GMT -5
No he's not Also, Storm Bolters were, in fact, given to Guard personnel in previous editions IIRC. What a Guardsman would or would not get depends on their officers, their planet's resources, and the need of the mission.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2009 16:45:57 GMT -5
@rt: Well I figured, as you're the CO, you should probably start it, kinda like a briefing. Who's the 2iC? We'll figure that out after RT's guy gets blasted in the brains for showing signs of cowardice in the face of the Emperor's enemies. Oh wait... so that means never. No he's not Also, Storm Bolters were, in fact, given to Guard personnel in previous editions IIRC. What a Guardsman would or would not get depends on their officers, their planet's resources, and the need of the mission. Trust me...most of us already know that. it was a bitter sweet day when my JO had to turn in his stormbolter and change his name to PC.
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Post by Cadian 117 on Aug 25, 2009 16:51:42 GMT -5
Not me! A sergeant in a regular unit who is known for screwing missions up and barely escaping through what would be considered normally heretical means? I doubt it.
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Post by Laughing Man on Aug 25, 2009 16:52:41 GMT -5
what if we have to split up?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2009 16:55:17 GMT -5
Alright... *draws boltpistol* the sergeant with the biggest balls please kindly raise your hand.
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 16:55:46 GMT -5
I don't have any balls, but I do have a meltagun and lots of explosives. Does that count?
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Post by Laughing Man on Aug 25, 2009 16:57:10 GMT -5
As a minor member of the cult mechanicum i have balls of steel, literally.
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Post by Cadian 117 on Aug 25, 2009 16:57:17 GMT -5
*raises hand* I have balls of steel sir! And a big@ss machine gun!
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2009 16:59:54 GMT -5
In the last RP I escaped from a battalion of chaos tanks.
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Post by Srgt. Master on Aug 25, 2009 16:59:57 GMT -5
*looks around, stepps behind good cover, and raises hand*
same as laughing man sir!
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Post by Laughing Man on Aug 25, 2009 17:00:13 GMT -5
in the end it's RT's call even with our large number of sergeants, plus two corporals and an armsman (which i think is a naval rank as well but i might be trusting, Graham McNeil a bit too much there)
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Post by Melissia on Aug 25, 2009 17:01:42 GMT -5
I just used it to represent a specialist rank above that of Guardsman but below that of an NCO.
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