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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 17, 2010 17:57:15 GMT -5
Just spent the last hour or so with the new book, pretty pleased with it so far I think...tossed together a list using all my nids(including the 12 gargoyles that are currently in the mail.)
managed to get an even 2500 point list(old BFM Sporemines and all.)
-HQ-
Hive Tyrant
x2 scything talons
+wings
+hive commander
+adrenal glands
+leech essence
+psychic scream=265
-Elite-
Lictor + rending claws + scything talons + flesh hooks=65
10 Ymgarl Genestealers=230
10 Ymgarl Genestealers=230
-Troops-
16 Genestealers
+ Brood Lord=270
20 termagants=100
20 termagants=100
20 hormagaunts=120
5 warriors
+deathspitters=175
5 warriors
+deathspitters=175
-fast attack-
20 Gargoyles=120
sporemine cluster
x6 sporemines=60
-Heavy Support-
carnifex brood
x2 carnifex + crusher claws + bioplasma=410
carnifex brood
Carnifex + stranglethorn cannon=180
total 2500
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 17, 2010 18:27:33 GMT -5
Are you gonna have the bio-plasma fexes outflank?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 17, 2010 19:16:58 GMT -5
Sadly it only works with troops...
so...hormagaunts maybe.
Also..I just bought 20 feeder tendril heads from the warstore...and some extra bits to make my very own Tyranid Prime.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 17, 2010 20:35:01 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a shame there was some confusion between the tyranid prime and the trygon prime in the pre-release rumors. I so wanted to just buy three of the trygon kits and some gargoyle, and make a list.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2010 12:27:08 GMT -5
Alright, after some thought I think I may mod my carnifexes a little bit, make them all screamer killers(x2 talons + bioplasma) crusher claws have never really been worth it...and all said and done the stranglethorn cannon isn't all that great...for the same price I can get x2 talons and bioplasma.
Afterward I'll drop the spore mines and have enough points to add in the Alpha Warrior as my second HQ with a deathspitter, lashwhip and bonesword plus adrenal glands.
still keeping my list a nice even 2500 points(and making some room for a trygon or two as I push up toward 3000 in the coming months.)
For the Alpha Warrior I'm going to be using a warrior model as the base and bulk him up with armor plates and greenstuff, giving him the lash whip and bonesword left over from my tyrant and an oversized deathspitter from somewhere(carnifex maybe?) So I plan on putting him on a 60mm base for some extra stability. Normally I'd just do it and think nothing of it...but come to read that the lash whip effects every model in base contact...so do you think putting him on a large base would be considered cheesy?
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 18, 2010 13:06:25 GMT -5
Is this something that isn't out yet? If so, you should find out the approximate size of the mini, then make your best judgment. After it comes out, you can re-base it if necessary.
If this is just a normal warrior, but on the juice, use a weighted base.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2010 13:20:52 GMT -5
He is a warrior with higher stats and better armor...40mm might be the way to go...
They currently do not make a model for him, and I have visions of him getting knocked over a lot with those metal arms making him top heavy...maybe weights will work.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 18, 2010 15:07:51 GMT -5
Also..I just bought 20 feeder tendril heads from the warstore...and some extra bits to make my very own Tyranid Prime. That's amazing! Ymgarl 'stealers sound like cc beasts. How much did those 20 heads set you back? |
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2010 15:11:55 GMT -5
Way way too much...
$3.99 each
*cringe*
I have a problem.
Oh well...at least I won't have to worry about it ever again.
I really love my Genestealers.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 18, 2010 15:16:05 GMT -5
In six months they'll release a FAQ/Errata that says the stealers (or whatever you're using) can't use the feeder tendrils.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2010 15:22:29 GMT -5
nah, feeder tendrils are no longer a bio upgrade...
the codex says that all Ymgarl Genestealers have maws of writhing tentacles...so I'm going for pure WYSIWYG.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 18, 2010 15:23:20 GMT -5
Yikes! *does the maths!*
Wow!
I suppose it's better than getting the genestealer boxed set over and over.
The tentacle head is one thing, but have you read the fluff on Ymgarl 'stealers - the mutable bodies, and that. It's a modellers dream. I reckon some 'nid collectors will really go to town converting that up.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2010 15:33:11 GMT -5
I'm just going for the heads and extended carapace...the mutation ability won't be represented on the model(kinda impossible to do wysiwyg with random mutations anyway...thinking about units like chaos possessed, penal troopers and the like)...besides I like some degree of uniformity...the only other way I see doing it is to make each stealer a random mess...something like genestealer meets chaos spawn.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 18, 2010 15:36:50 GMT -5
Which would also be an interesting project.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 18, 2010 15:57:31 GMT -5
Mutant 'stealers! Sounds very exciting (I'm such a geek!). The spawn kit is quite fun for that.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 19, 2010 2:35:27 GMT -5
I do love me some chaos spawn...I have six!(didn't bols vote them worst unit in 40k? Heh...well I think they're fun.)
More Nids!
Tyranid Prime
+bonesword and lashwhip
+deathspitter=100
5 warriors
+deathspitters=175
20 termagants=100
10 Genestealers
+ Brood Lord=200
Carnifex
+bioplasma=180
total 755
Likely to be the first list I actually use with the new codex...most of it is painted and ready, just gotta get my hands on that tyranid prime(I should get the bits I need some time this week, If I'm lucky I'll get to play this coming weekend.) some tweaking might be called for...keeping in mind what I have above and my preference for genestealers.
This is mostly to get a feel for the new rules and such...should be good times.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 19, 2010 11:23:52 GMT -5
I think the mawloc would be more fun than the carnifex. But then I fell in love with it at first sight...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 19, 2010 15:19:38 GMT -5
The list looks good for a 750. The carnifex alone will make the foe concentrate all anti-tank on it.
Req may have a point about the mawloc, but the 'fex kit is only a few years older than the mawloc in either case.
Carnifex pros - stronger, cheaper, erm.. that's it. Oh. More options.
Mawloc pros - deep strike, burrows, more wounds..
Plus they're roughly the same points. Mawlocs can't be shooty.. Six wounds, man...Burrowing, deep striking monstrosity, or a plasma 'fex?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 19, 2010 15:28:11 GMT -5
This is true...
but I won't be getting a trygon or mawloc till at least the end of feburary...I've got my fingers crossed that Ymmit will pick one up for my birthday(I told him all about it shortly after unveiling the one hundred and fifty dollar transformer I bought him for christmas...and reminded him that my birthday was only a few months away...)
I think I want a Trygon though...I need more synapses.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 19, 2010 15:30:45 GMT -5
Only the trygon prime is synapse. But you really can't argue with the 20 angry shots that thing fires at (I think) 18" with the hook thingy upgrades. I really want one of those too.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 19, 2010 22:16:49 GMT -5
Right, the trygon prime is the one I want the most I think, possibly two...
only 12 shots each...S5 AP5
good times!
My Tyranid Prime(Who I will be calling my Alpha Warrior...at least for now as it will help avoid confusion.) is going to use a warrior as a base...figure I'll bulk out his joints with a bit of green stuff then cover any unsightliness with armored plates, add monsterous sized death spitter and metal bonesword and lashwhip left over from way back when I got my hive tyrant...and I think that oughta do nicely.
Wish me luck that it turns out as good as my Space Wolves Dreadnought and it oughta come together pretty convincingly.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 19, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Twelve? Something about it had the number 20... maybe that's the cost of the spines? Or do they come with the prime upgrade...
!!! Optimus Trygon Prime! I may have just convinced myself to start a 'nid army...
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Jan 19, 2010 23:07:18 GMT -5
!!! Optimus Trygon Prime! I may have just convinced myself to start a 'nid army... Don't give into the voice of the Hive Mind! |
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jan 19, 2010 23:22:22 GMT -5
But it said Optimus Prime! How can I resist, being an uber Transformers nerd? And the trygon kit is so freakin' sexy...
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jan 19, 2010 23:34:01 GMT -5
But it said Optimus Prime! How can I resist, being an uber Transformers nerd? And the trygon kit is so freakin' sexy... Didn't know you were into bugs... Reds |
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