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Post by razorbryce on Jan 13, 2013 20:34:43 GMT -5
Hey does anyone have any ideas of any models that i could use as a cheaper alternative to Rough Riders? and hopefully better looking ones lol.
I like the bike conversions but with a marine bike costing more than one horse plus the extra imperial would make a unit of them a ridiculous price.
If anyone knows anything i can use for other units as well that will be great.
Thanks
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Post by macknight on Jan 13, 2013 21:16:56 GMT -5
for my guard, I use the tallarn RR on fantasy empire pistolier horses.  others have done it with catachan on fantasy cold ones, guard on bikes, guard on speeders, though through heavy conversion. you may want to try companies outside of GW. |
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Post by hendrik on Jan 15, 2013 18:10:58 GMT -5
the perry brothers make some lovely cavalry models for various time periods such as napoleonic wars, amarican civil war etc. www.perry-miniatures.com/they are slightly smaller than the heroic scale imperials guardman are in though |
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Post by ColGravis on Jan 16, 2013 7:34:54 GMT -5
I offer a couple of conversion kits, and seperate components through my webstore, www.curiousconstructs.co.uk, the kits include everything you need bar horses and lance shafts for Colonial themed Roughriders, or you could just pick up the legs and use Cadian/Catatchan bits to build your own in full. There are examples of assembled kits HERE and HERE. |
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Post by razorbryce on Jan 20, 2013 20:14:34 GMT -5
Great answers guys! The tallarn RR on fantasy empire pistolier horses were exactly what i was looking for. Thanks everyone!
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Post by emptyhat on Jan 21, 2013 19:47:45 GMT -5
To save me making a parallel thread, could anyone recommend a good frog model for rough riders. I've been keeping my eyes open but no joy so far.
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Post by hendrik on Jan 22, 2013 3:03:34 GMT -5
hmm, though call! from a biological -earthly frog view a frog wouldn't make a good mount (atleast from my own horse riding experience) since it's back is mostly a broad flat area, and his bodily-"depth" (vertical diameter from back to belly) isn't that long. this would make the "standard sitting method rather annoying to sit, and, being an equestrian that is also starting out with jousting,having a proper seat is definetly something you'd want to have when working with impact weapons such as lances etc
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Post by emptyhat on Jan 22, 2013 14:10:11 GMT -5
Yeah, whenever I look at frog models I can see that finding one of a reasonable size that can also mount a guardsman is an issue. Obviously the frog's rear legs fold back where a rider would normally want to keep his. Perhaps a harness modeled onto the frog that held the rider lying flat on his belly would work.
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Post by hendrik on Jan 22, 2013 17:34:27 GMT -5
a laying down position would still not be really optimal, as your close combat possibilities are heavely restricted because of the movement you're able to make. they will essentially be fighting laying down on their belly....  is there a specific reasoning for the frogs? some salamander like creatures could possibly work,since their bodyshape seems more apropriate for riding if upscaled. if it's just because you want an alternative to horses, cold ones or bikes you could always get some seekers of slaanesh and convert those into ostrich like creatures? |
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Post by emptyhat on Jan 22, 2013 19:03:05 GMT -5
Ostrich like creatures and salamanders would be cool. I just like the idea of frogs. Rough riders aren't that great game wise so I can afford to hold out till I find something that works.
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Post by hendrik on Jan 22, 2013 19:29:03 GMT -5
how about doing mounted "archers" then? in the 15th century it was a habbit to have mounted archers. unlike to what you might think these didn't shoot arrows from the back of a horse but rather used horses to quickly mobilise themselves, take on new firing positions etc. a more "dakka" orientated rough riders squad could work the same. use the frogs to get into that marshy battleground faster then the sentinels or chimeras can get, dismount quickly, get off those 2 meltashots, retreat. offcourse gamewise you'll want them to charge things
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Post by razorbryce on Feb 22, 2013 17:01:03 GMT -5
Just for the purposes of an update, iv bought my cheap version of rough riders costing £3.50 per model (For 10 Models) as a pose to the £7.70 from GW. I bought the box of 5 Empire Pistoliers (Fantasy) at a discount from tinyurl.com/anvufzsThen i got these lances to stick on tinyurl.com/ag6m8wt even the arms look very similar to those on the Pistoliers, they were a good find. A bit of green stuff or carful carving with relevant painting and these should be almost identical to the real deal with very little extra effort (Well...I hope so by the time they are done.) I hope someone found this useful and thank you for all your input, I may report back when i finally finish one of these. |
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Post by cheminhaler on Feb 27, 2013 10:25:40 GMT -5
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Post by razorbryce on Feb 28, 2013 20:43:45 GMT -5
from that website ...You should use the giant weasel, you could defiantly fit something on the back of that haha. Id love to see someone use something from other world miniatures as a mount, it would look hilarious but cool!
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Post by cheminhaler on Mar 2, 2013 18:04:24 GMT -5
The giant weasels are too small as they're only on a 25mm base. It would need to be a 40mm/ 60mm base, I reckon.
Like it or not the cheapest mounts (and easiest way to approach RR) are the GW plastic medieval horse or the bretonnian horse, which are £8.65 for 5, or something. It's in the bitz section under mounts, on the fantasy section of GW's site.
The most expensive mounts are those giant lions from the high elf chariot box, but they would be amazing converted up.
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Post by crazyrussianmodeler on Jul 25, 2019 0:56:03 GMT -5
Hey does anyone have any ideas of any models that i could use as a cheaper alternative to Rough Riders? and hopefully better looking ones lol. I like the bike conversions but with a marine bike costing more than one horse plus the extra imperial would make a unit of them a ridiculous price. If anyone knows anything i can use for other units as well that will be great. Thanks Why not just use recast bikes? |
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is there a specific reasoning for the frogs? some salamander like creatures could possibly work,since their bodyshape seems more apropriate for riding if upscaled. if it's just because you want an alternative to horses, cold ones or bikes you could always get some seekers of slaanesh and convert those into ostrich like creatures?