3 Year hiatus, first attempt at a 7th Ed 1000pnt army list

[psymorgan]

Hi all,

As stated I haven't played 40 for a long time now, I sold off my Grey Knight Coteaz acolytes in psybacks, with psyriflemen (quite competitive) before I went to Univercity. I have been drawn back into the game by some new friends who have just started playing, they have told me that none of them are super competitive (not complete fluff bunnies, but definitely not fully WAACy).

I settled on Imperial Guard as it is one of the armies I never played in the past.

Without further ado ... the list:

Astra Militarum: Combined Arms Detachment
HQ
CCS - Tactical Reliquary of Tyberius (Warlord)
CCS - naked

Troop
Platoon 1:
PCS - Heavy Flamer, 3xFlamer
IS - Grenade Launcher, Mortar
IS - Grenade Launcher, Mortar
HWS - 3xMortar
Conscripts - 26 men

Platoon 2:
PCS - Heavy Flamer, 3xFlamer
IS - Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
IS - Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
IS - Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
HWS - 3xLascannon
    
Inquisition: Inquisitorial Detachment
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - Power Armor, 3xServo Skulls, Psyker (Lvl 1)

Fortification
Ageis Defence Line - Quad Gun


The Plan:

Inquisitor mans the Quad Gun and throws prescience around. Mortar platoon blobs its two squads and surrounds the HWSs behind the ADL, Missile Launcher platoon may blob or not depending on opponent. Both PCSs will charge down one flank, ordering themselves to Move Move Move, and hopefully cook themselves some supper. The conscripts will settle in midfield attempting to slow things down.

Hopefully the combination of Twin-Linked from the Inquisitor and the orders from two CCS will be enough to quickly see off any large threats this the lascannon team.

I would be exceedingly grateful for any input from you veteran Guard players here.

Thanks all.

[Paradill]

I think you'll find the conscript fairly useless, especially without any sort of leadership buff.. They'll just break and run and the heavy weapons squads insta die with anything that's a Str 6 or above.

But it's fairly solid. Your pcs squads will get obliterated quickly, they are your only "aggressive" forward moving unit. I'm also concerned that you'll struggle to get to objectives footslogging with 5+ save guardsmen.

Might be worth "trimming the fat" so to speak and then try and fit in a vet squad with a chimera.

[Casiarius]

Let's do the mathhammer on The Tactical Auto-Reliquary of Tyberius (TART).
Since your Guard Infantry are (at best) Leadership 8, your odds are:

8% Order Succeeds, Inspired Tactics!
3% Order Succeeds, Inspired Tactics! TART shuts off.
61% Order Succeeds, no additional effect.
25% Order Fails, no additional effect.
3% Order Fails, Incompetent Command!

So, the TART has about an 8% chance per-order of doing what you actually hope it will do, and you get two chances each turn to make it work.
Meanwhile, since you have no vox casters and no attached characters to improve the leadership of your squads, the chance that any order will be obeyed without Inspired Tactics is about 72%, which is really rather low. Each turn you can expect one of your four Senior Officer orders to be ignored. The TART doesn't do much to increase the odds, because it works so rarely.

Now, a large blob squad led by a Leadership 9 character like a Commissar or a Primaris Psyker will obey orders 83% of the time. With a vox caster this is increased to 97%. You can push the odds extremely close to 100% with a Leadership 10 character and a vox caster.

I feel like the TART promises a sure thing but really gives you very random and spotty benefits, especially since it does not make you immune to Incompetent Command, and it can be "accidentally" turned off. If you leave your squads in their basic Leadership 8 no-vox configuration, you are sabotaging your ability to give them orders and also leaving them vulnerable to failing every other sort of Leadership test they might face during the game.
Meanwhile, a big blob with a competent character leading it can take orders very reliably, and also pass morale, pinning and fear tests. When you give an order to a large blob squad you know you're getting maximum bang for your buck, and there's no need to take extra naked Company Command Squads for extra orders.

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I agree with Paradill on the subject of Conscripts. Anything you can kill with Conscripts, you can kill deader with real Guardsmen packing real weapons.

Infantry with mortars can sometimes be effective in spite of their low damage, but they are totally outclasses by the Wyvern. There's just no contest.

I think that the pyromaniac Platoon Command Squads will die quickly and terribly if they advance while the bulk of your army digs in and shoots. These guys are T3 and have 5+ Saves. One half-hearted burst of bolter fire will kill a whole squad. They could be useful for repelling assaults if you hide them inside bigger infantry formations and have them just close enough to the edge that they get assaulted and can spring their Wall of Death attack. Still, I think they'd be more useful in general if you just gave them heavy weapons and had them join the gun line. They'd also be cheaper that way.