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Post by Paradill on Mar 20, 2011 14:12:49 GMT -5
I got a game in today, it was hilarious, I was on a weekend break and the Mrs. wanted to try and get a bit of sleep before we checked out. I went to the local GW and met a kid with Tyranids and borrowed someones space marines. I say kid, he was probably about 14-15 and seemed the reasonable sort.
I had a Libby and a couple of tac squads backed up by a rifleman, and whirly. He had a tyrant, a warrior brood and what can only be described as a nuts load of gaunts. It was kill points so he had a huge advantage, also, it was pitched battle.
He went first and lurched forward, doing no damage his turn other than closing the gap. I responded by firing my whirlwind into his gaunts and after a sustained round of firing had wiped out a brood of gaunts covering is tyrant and knocked a wound off it. Turn two, he didn't move a gaunt brood or warrior squad anywhere near his tyrant to protect it, and moved forward again, charging a combat squad and murdering them. I fired everything I had at his Tyrant to disrupt his synapse control and killed it.
Then, in an event I will remember for the rest of my life, he started crying. Like actual tears crying. I apologised (hating to see children cry) and told him it was only a game, he can put it back with one wound if he wants. He told me I was a cheater and that he was going home.
He packed up his things and went. I feel that means my borrowed space marines, recognising how bad ass the chapter master of The Knights Eternal (me) is, became just as bad ass and thus made the hive mind cry and go home. Victory is mine/the kid with the metallica T-shirts'.
Also, is the Hive Tyrant T7? I wasn't sure and didn't want to call some random I just met a liar so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
So yeah, not the longest or most challenging match I've ever played but definitely one of the most memorable.
(I might not be right about the warriors, there were between 4 and six of them and they were a little smaller than the Tyrant with big phallic guns... I don't play many nids but I think that's warriors.)
Paradill
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 20, 2011 14:29:38 GMT -5
That sounds like a fun game Paradill. Tyrants are T6, so your lasguns should have cut it down in short order.
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Post by krasimirova on Mar 20, 2011 14:30:32 GMT -5
If the "warriors" had what is called and impaler cannon then they are Hive guards.. If they where T6 then they where either Tyrant guards or Hive guards.. Higest T in the Nid codex is T6, there isn't many things in the game with T7 actaully now i come to think of it.. Sounds like a spoiled brat Paradill, don't feel to bad about it.. Seemed like he didn't wanna loose to someone who borrowed a random army.. Such a hissy fit can really grind ones gears.. That sounds like a fun game Paradill. Tyrants are T6, so your lasguns should have cut it down in short order. What..?! 100 lasgun shot = 50 hits = 8.333 wounds = 1.3 unsaved wounds on a 2+ Tyrant..
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Post by 3ff3ct on Mar 20, 2011 15:44:45 GMT -5
What a weiner, he makes nid players look bad. Im amused at his reaction though.
Maybe if he splent less time crying and more time learning how to play with his army then he'd last a bit longer.
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Post by Paradill on Mar 20, 2011 16:59:50 GMT -5
That sounds like a fun game Paradill. Tyrants are T6, so your lasguns should have cut it down in short order. What..?! 100 lasgun shot = 50 hits = 8.333 wounds = 1.3 unsaved wounds on a 2+ Tyrant.. If either of you were paying attention, you'd notice my BOLTERS on my MARINES and their PLASMA GUNS and MISSILE LAUNCHERS were doing most the work Also, Kras, I hate it when you talk maths. It's like eating an ice-cream with someone poking me in the eye every two seconds. Less maths, more ridiculous notions!! Paradill
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Post by Trickstick on Mar 20, 2011 17:13:19 GMT -5
Sorry Paradill, for some reason when I looked up the toughness I thought "Look, lasguns can hurt it" and my brain went off at a tangent.
Kras, you are forgetting all the specials in the squads, and that 100 lasgun shots is not that much. It is only to get a few extra wounds on after the missiles and auto cannons have had a go.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Mar 20, 2011 17:57:48 GMT -5
Paradill, I here by award you with the "Club Baby Seals" medal for your amusing efforts. We'll have to get Ymmot to design it, and then you can put it in your signature.
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Post by Paradill on Mar 20, 2011 18:21:16 GMT -5
Paradill, I here by award you with the "Club Baby Seals" medal for your amusing efforts. We'll have to get Ymmot to design it, and then you can put it in your signature.Yes please!!!
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Post by LemonKing on Mar 22, 2011 6:10:06 GMT -5
he does sound kinda like a spoiled brat... could have had a much better list though, if he only had a tyrant for synapse he is just asking for trouble
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Post by Rook on Jun 25, 2011 21:34:19 GMT -5
What a weiner, he makes nid players look bad. Im amused at his reaction though. Maybe if he splent less time crying and more time learning how to play with his army then he'd last a bit longer. LOL. You read my mind.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 25, 2011 21:50:54 GMT -5
Paradill, I here by award you with the "Club Baby Seals" medal for your amusing efforts. We'll have to get Ymmot to design it, and then you can put it in your signature.Google a baby seal pic, cut it into a circle and then some program feature to enamel it like a metal medal I think there are a bunch of things that can do that in a single click.
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Post by connor on Jul 2, 2011 22:37:42 GMT -5
haha i laughed for like 10 minutes when i read the first sentence of the second paragraph. same thing happens to me when i play this kid who is super rich and spoiled, after about 5 or 6 games of the same thing happening, his crisis commander and two body guard suits jump over a build and shoot their guns downing mabey 5 guardsmen at best, and they stay their, my turn rolls around and my autocannon teams let out some auto-pain and millions of las bolts fried his face off. basalisk blows up hammerhead, and he actualy yelled in the store "i Fu@#% quit!" then he picks his stuff up, throws it in his box, and storms off to find his next opponent. and recently he has seen the alpha of are gaming group who plays space wolfs, and he decimates everyone with them because he is realy good with them. so somehow the kids "dog" got a hold of his WHOLE tau army, and ate it. . now the kid has a bunch of space wolf stuff, in fact im releasing a battle report soon about it you should read it when it comes out, SPOILER!...he lost.
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Post by Subtle Blatancy on Jul 3, 2011 17:20:18 GMT -5
That's such a shame about the kid. Who knows -- maybe he's really well-adjusted in all the other aspects of his life?
Either way, I applaud you for your skill in tactics and in ethics. The latter, for offering to put the Hive Tyrant back. The former, for blowing that brat's xeno-scum off the board to begin with.
-S.B.
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Post by connor on Jul 3, 2011 18:24:54 GMT -5
i second that.
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Post by DadCRO on Oct 30, 2011 10:42:12 GMT -5
What a noob. I hate quitters and cry-babies who can't take a beating.
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Post by egon on Oct 30, 2011 14:11:12 GMT -5
What a noob. I hate quitters and cry-babies who can't take a beating. Yeah, because a grown man beating a kid at playing with toy soldiers is so frigging cool. Relac dudes, it was just a game, no need to bash the kid so hard. Of course he was sad because he lost. Paradill, it was nice of you to offer him his Tyrant back. That's the kind of attitude this hobby needs, not "haha, I'm better than some new guy who's only 14!"
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Post by DadCRO on Oct 30, 2011 14:57:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but a crying 14 year old? I'm 15, and I'm a good loser and barely ever cry for anything.
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Post by Laughing Man on Oct 30, 2011 15:08:19 GMT -5
I play a kid once if i took longer than 5 minutes for my turn he'd sit under the gaming table and sulk at the age of 15. fornicateing pathetic little turd. It's why i don't play in GW stores anymore.
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Post by egon on Oct 30, 2011 18:27:38 GMT -5
Yeah, but a crying 14 year old? I'm 15, and I'm a good loser and barely ever cry for anything. I bet if I show up at your house I could make you cry. Jokes aside, there is such a thing as a good winner as well. And to be perfectly honest; you're 15. You don't know anything about anything. You think you do, but so does all fifteen year-olds (and even some 25 year-olds). So you don't cry. Good for you. Now make sure your opponent have no reason to cry. That's the sign of true character.
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Post by emptyhat on Oct 30, 2011 20:12:29 GMT -5
Quick egon, use your super speed to fly around the Earth against its rotation so ypu can prevent this travesty!
All you need to do is head back to March.
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Post by DadCRO on Oct 30, 2011 20:31:29 GMT -5
Yeah, but a crying 14 year old? I'm 15, and I'm a good loser and barely ever cry for anything. I bet if I show up at your house I could make you cry. Jokes aside, there is such a thing as a good winner as well. And to be perfectly honest; you're 15. You don't know anything about anything. You think you do, but so does all fifteen year-olds (and even some 25 year-olds). So you don't cry. Good for you. Now make sure your opponent have no reason to cry. That's the sign of true character. What a nice way to put it. Sheesh dude, I was only expressing my surprise at a 14 year old crying.
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Post by Laughing Man on Oct 31, 2011 1:29:41 GMT -5
I never once ever quit a game or insulted my opponent over a game of warhamster. I've sworn, threatened to destroy my models, dice. But i'm also very fair at times and will after the turn give my opponent advice in order to improve him. Like the kid who insisted on footslooging twin-Lightning Claw termies. I shot them to pieces, after the game i told him, that despite the 2+ terminators always get shot at and he needed to invest in a metal box for his guys. Kid tweaks his list and gets a Crusader in his list. That was 3 months ago. I saw the kid again last week, he's now winning little tournaments with his friends because of some of the tactics i taught him.
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Post by treadiculous on Oct 31, 2011 2:50:31 GMT -5
40k can and does attract some, er.. less social adept individuals at times, and age has little bearing on whether they can accept losing.
I've seen men of 30 years plus state that dice always roll against them on a 30 - 70 ratio (what ever that means?) ..that the rules are bias towards x type of units (and he's beautifully contradicted himself over a couple of games) so basically bias toward anything he's facing on the board. That we (the opponents) have conspired against him to make him loose by building lists specifically to destroy his (when no-one knew what he was bringing and he has like 5k of marines to choose from)... etc etc...
.. all of which i wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't that in each game we bend over backwards so far its ridiculous just to get to the end of game without him storming off (often when he's still winning but his power game plan has had a model from a tactical unit taken down). We've ended up stating that any rules issue would be decided by him (so he could argue the rules in whatever way he liked - this still took half an hour per rule and some of the craziest logic I've ever heard!.. we've given him models back when he's clearly upset about taking casualties, we've spelled out tactical errors really politely so he can adjust, we've made sure he has full understanding of our lists and all of their special rules etc.. its exhausting.. and as reward we get called cheats, manipulators of the laws of physics, rules lawyers etc etc...
... the best bit is that once he spent over an hour explaining why he could act in such a crappy way without needing to apologise (he's got a brilliant method of ensuring you can't interrupt his crazy speeches, which is to carry on talking without breathing in, until he starts to sort of suffocate himself.. its bonkers!).
In the end after much effort and many hours spent to him we decided as a group to no longer try and involve him in the games, which is a shame as we'd like him to enjoy it, but we felt it was only further antagonising the poor guy.
I think we've all met individuals who are attracted to games with set rules, as for them I think they find comfort in the predictability of the rules, where as life is too unpredicatable and complex to fathom out. plus in real life your not a genetically enhanced son of god in a super suit of shiny armour with a huge gun.
- Paradil, it sounds as though you tried to console the guy, and he still acted daft...
- Connor, I'll be interested to know whether the space wolf coach gave the angry kid any tactical advice on being a sporting player...
at the end of the day we can only strive to be positive role models, showing players how to be sporting, gracious and good fun. You don't need to win to have a good game, and you don't have to play 'soft' to help them win, but explain useful tactical choices to opponents, and why you're using the tactics you are and less experienced players gain a lot from the insights.
I apologise if any of this sounds condescending, not my intention, we're all good guyd, thats why we play humble guardsmen, right!?!
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Post by egon on Oct 31, 2011 6:18:11 GMT -5
What a nice way to put it. Sheesh dude, I was only expressing my surprise at a 14 year old crying. To be fair, you did it in a rather condecending way. "What a noob. I hate quitters and cry-babies who can't take a beating." That's not really the nicest way of expressing yourself. And I hope that you didn't take my joke about visiting you seriously or that I meant to harm you in any way. That was not my intention at all. Violence is not a good thing, and that's my professional opinion. As for the rest of it goes; well, it is true. All teenagers feel like the kings and queens of the world and in some ways they should. But as we get older we wisen up a bit and realize that we still had a lot to learn. Didn't mean to offend you or put you down, just as I am sure you didn't mean to sound condecending and harsh with your first remark about the kid. Like Treadiculous said: Take care and good luck with your gaming.
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Post by Shostak(AWOL) on Oct 31, 2011 12:57:38 GMT -5
Paradill, it was nice of you to offer him his Tyrant back. That's the kind of attitude this hobby needs, not "haha, I'm better than some new guy who's only 14!" I see your point, but the guys weren't saying 'haha, I'm better than some new guy who's only 14,' they were annoyed and angry by the fact that his temperment ruined the game for Paradill. There's no fun in playing a sore loser (or a sore winner) and there's no fun in being one. Fair enough to be upset when you take a beating; it happens to the best of us but when someone lets this get out of control and ruins the game for others it's gone to far. If someone can't find it in them to try and make the game as fun as possible for everyone then I really don't think much of them as a person. Paradill did the right thing in the game mentioned, his opponent did not.
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