Throwing around guard scheme ideas?

[Trooper Hornman]

Hi all,

So I've been wracking my brain coming up with color scheme ideas for my first ever cadian models, and now the cadian battleforce just arrived in the mail today, so I really need to get my act together!

I've tentatively decided on an aquatic themed fluff/paint scheme, such as a regiment of naval/marine infantry.

It may be cheesy but I used the Dawn of War army painter on PC to illustrate what I'm going for.

2 pics, let's hope this works.....

steamcommunity.com/id/TerryTateOfficeLinebacker/screenshot/577796899265257015/?tab=public

steamcommunity.com/id/TerryTateOfficeLinebacker/screenshot/577796899265257700/?tab=public

(see top right of both pics for expanded full rez shot)

Having (hopefully) shown you those, I should point out that I'm fairly inexperienced in painting minis, and totally inexperienced painting up guard models. Having said that, do you think a camo scheme is advisable for a first timer?

It seems more forgiving in its own way than painting the cloth a single color with shading and highlights, but I won't know until I put brush to plastic.

In addition, how might I adapt this scheme for vehicles? So far I'm working off of the idea that, since they're a water-world type regiment, it would be Valk heavy and perhaps some sentinels too, and I already have one from the battleforce . I'm having a little trouble justifying the use of a manticore and LRBT/LR variants, but I'm sure I can figure something out!

Thanks all for any CC you can provide!

[Soap]

Painting cammo on troops: Dont use too much pattern on them. You just need to use a couple of cammo lines on the main colour scheme for it to be effective. Take a butchers at this:

www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=2400008

Vehicles: Spray is the quickest and easy way I have found. Find the colours you want in a spray, spray the vehicle the main colour (ie black), then mask off the pattern with blu tac then spray with the next colour. Remove the blu tac and repeat as required!

Justifing tanks in a Marine type force: This is perfectly resionable to have tanks in your army. Look back at the D-Day landings. They was tanks shipped over onto the beaches for the land invation. I know they where army but hey-oh!

Hope that helps and welcome to the Guard!

[3ff3ct]

I think 'beach landing' camo would work great. You colud even do a mock horizon line on them and have half sea half land.

Fluff wise, Chimeras are amphibious anyway, so I cant see why other tanks couldnt be.

[Trooper Hornman]

Soap: that's a load of help thanks, looks like the overriding principle is keeping it simple?

3ff3ct: good idea, and also when you say beach landing camo, would that be something more earth tone/brown, such as sand and rock colors and less aqua/ blues?

[Soap]

For vehicles you could paint them in a 'Dazzle' camouflage like ships where painted during WWI and WWII. It would work for all land vehicles and air vehicles. Or you could consider using a similar pattern to the Sea Harrier in the Falklands Conflict (found here: www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/aircraft.html ), or even one of the other aircraft for that matter.

Beach landing cammo can be anything from normal 'green' cammo (cos lets face it, they are going to be off the beach soon one way or another), or desert colours, or anything really. Beach landings are really a way for mass armys to deploy now, so looking back at World War 2 would be your best bet for inspiration. Infact, just watch 'Saving Private Ryan'. Quality film.

[3ff3ct]

Yeah, what he said

[The Hawk!]

i with 3ff3ct there.... the beach landing camo idea is classic.... i would recomend you to take a look at a couple of pic's from ww2 Allied Marines it would be great to have another Guard collecter gathering a past conflict based force (i'm basing my army around 'Nam) whatever you do, best of luck with your force friend

Dave

[Trooper Hornman]

Thanks! I'll have to start researching this a little more...it's looking like a rather gloomy Sunday out so no time like the present.

[Trooper Hornman]

I had another idea for my sentinel(s) as well, given the aforementioned beach landing, marine inf theme... the base could be flocked with bits of beach sand or pebbles, and wisps of cotton from a q-tip or cotton ball, soaked in watered down PVA and painted up as seaweed green could be draped over the sent? it would prob have to be armored of course, my thought is perhaps these guys drop them in shallow water and they march along the sea bed up to shore?

I'm trying to think how one might simulate water or even puddles on a model base, do you guys think this could work?

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

Hmmm... You could possibly even use bits of gauze to represent the seaweed.

For simulating water, perhaps you could use gloss polyurethane varnish over painted on "pools" of water?

[Trooper Hornman]

I definitely like the gauze idea, I've seen it used to great effect on this site and another that used it as camo netting for Elysian sentinels, very cool: aguardsmansguidetoglory.blogspot.com/2011/01/elysian-drop-sentinel-squadron-2.html

as for the water idea, you remind me of something I just learned about today; evidently GW sells small bottles of something called "water effects" which I think is either a gel that forms a water-simulating solid or is a watery gloss coat like you said.

now I just need to think of a regiment name...leaning towards something like "tridents", "harpoons", "firaxans", or something equally aquatic and stabby...but that will come in time.

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

Yeah, I use gauze all the time to make camo nets for my vehicles. Shape it how you want it to look, paint it with some watered down white glue, and once it's set, go to town with whatever colors of paint you want...

Oh yeah, I recommend staying away from the GW water effects stuff. A friend of mine used it on his game table and said that it was crap to work with. It shrinks excessively, and is prone to cracking... There are other companies out there that make better water simulating stuff--look around at a hobby/model train shop if there are any in your area.