Oztoon
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Post by Oztoon on Oct 3, 2006 15:42:54 GMT -5
I have been thinking about a Death Korps of Krieg army. If anyone could tell me some of their strenghts and weaknesses of the list. And if it was possible to give me some more info on them, because i've been looking everywhere and can't find anything. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2006 17:17:00 GMT -5
Well, there's a very good reason you can't find anything.
There isn't.
Other than a brief paragraph on their fluff and a list of doctrines in the back of the IG codex, they haven't yet released Death Korps information. It's in the up coming Imperial Armor 5. I hear a rumour (Rumour, mind you) that it's due out in March/April. Good luck with your Kriegians.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Oct 3, 2006 18:03:50 GMT -5
the death korps are supposedly a suicidal unit for some reason which I can't remember, which opens the cool idea of using 'sacrifice a squad' tactics and having them actually be fluffy! they're made for this with iron discipline and die hards doctrines. other than that they're pretty much like any other guard army with a few non-critical doctrines.
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Post by commissar666 on Oct 25, 2006 23:05:29 GMT -5
There are really two flavours of Death Korps: GamesWorkshop and ForgeWorld
The GW flavour seems a lot like the steel legion but with a slightly different doctrine and preference for close combat as shown with their weapon preferences (never heard of them being suicidal thou), but the FW flavour is a bit more unique sporting twin-linked-heavy-stubbers and a preference for flamers. The FW models are based on WW1 German trench trooper and the new Storm Trooper line coming out soon is a splitting image of German trench grenadiers. ForgeWorld is keeping hush but they do have a couple of new tanks and heavy weapons on the way exclusive to the Korps, I’ve seen some concept sketches and they look a lot like German half-tracks etc…
A mate of mine has a couple of Korps and we set up Axis vs Allies games with Death Korps vs Cadian.
A lot of people argue about what they are about but there is general consensus on the following info which can be cross checked at wikipedia: Fluff wise the Death Korps is as Nazi as you can get in WH40K, their home world of Krieg even had a former dictator Autarch who was deposed by Colonel Jurten, and the remaining race began a process of genetic purge via genocide and atomic cleansing. The Korp don’t get along very well with other races of the Imperium and totally detest abhumans so putting a line of ogryns or squats in your army would be extremely un-fluffy. Oh they also have rough riders and a lot of people use this as an excuse to model some motorbike troops in their armies.
In regards to strengths and weaknesses the ForgeWorld flavour really is the perfect trench and city army as their doctrine gives them a bit of an edge for trench to trench close-combat and their flamers allow them to negate building cover saves and the like. They fair well against orks, nids and other low armour pack armies like IG but usual get the wipe from tua etc..
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Oct 26, 2006 2:01:10 GMT -5
2 thumbs up for that review
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Post by dethklok on Oct 26, 2006 11:53:30 GMT -5
Just a little note for all of the people that do not speak German, Krieg means war in German. The Death Krops is also a German spelling. People fail to realize that the Death Korps have complete disregard for their own lives because their planet is a war infested hell. The Death Korps are often not called upon but rather volunteer. Their commander requests the worst battlefields for their soldiers to fight. Often the Death Korps will participate in a defense and like in The Ultramarines The Omnibus. The Death Krops make up the first trench line of defense surrounding the city they are helping defend against the Tyranids. Where the other regiments retreated into the walls for more cover the Death Krops stayed outside and fought and died for the greater good of man. Another note about the Kriegsmen is that they are often illiterate. There are no schools on Krieg but this ties in well with the preference of the generals who prefer non educated soldiers. But sadly as a result the Kreigsmen often will freeze or get some sort of foot fungus if they are not careful for they lack the common knowledge of regular soldiers. And I leave with this quote from a Kriegsmen in a hospital after being taken there because of trench foot “No mam ain’t had no reason to learn how to read. General says that it’s the educated man that got Krieg bombed to *#$@ in the first place”
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Oct 26, 2006 17:35:02 GMT -5
lol
you get 2 thumbs up too dethklok
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Post by dethklok on Oct 26, 2006 17:41:43 GMT -5
thank you. i am quite good when it comes to fluff. ;D
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Post by Lt. Col. Hawkrin on Oct 26, 2006 19:44:21 GMT -5
You sure are dethklok
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Nov 12, 2006 2:55:21 GMT -5
couple new forgeworld death korps kits out: grenadier heavy flamer crew: and grenadiers:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2006 4:17:52 GMT -5
Where's the drool smilie, dammit i need to drool! They look so awesome. Shame i don't have the time or the cash to collect them.
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Post by commissar666 on Jan 10, 2007 22:54:54 GMT -5
Just a little note for all of the people that do not speak German, Krieg means war in German. The Death Krops is also a German spelling. People fail to realize that the Death Korps have complete disregard for their own lives because their planet is a war infested hell. The Death Korps are often not called upon but rather volunteer. Their commander requests the worst battlefields for their soldiers to fight. Often the Death Korps will participate in a defense and like in The Ultramarines The Omnibus. The Death Krops make up the first trench line of defense surrounding the city they are helping defend against the Tyranids. Where the other regiments retreated into the walls for more cover the Death Krops stayed outside and fought and died for the greater good of man. Another note about the Kriegsmen is that they are often illiterate. There are no schools on Krieg but this ties in well with the preference of the generals who prefer non educated soldiers. But sadly as a result the Kreigsmen often will freeze or get some sort of foot fungus if they are not careful for they lack the common knowledge of regular soldiers. And I leave with this quote from a Kriegsmen in a hospital after being taken there because of trench foot “No mam ain’t had no reason to learn how to read. General says that it’s the educated man that got Krieg bombed to *#$@ in the first place” Interesting, but I’m not too sure about the average kriegsmen being illiterate, poor schooling or having a below par intelligence compared to other IG races considering that they are based on ww1/ww2 German soldiers. In fact even thou Nazi Germans were racist fascist bastards they were (and still are) quit intelligent in comparison to the rest of the world and war torn Europe wasn’t exactly paradise at the time. In fact during ww2 the average German soldier was required to fluently speak three different languages which kind of contradicts their WH40K equivalent being illiterate. Next of all Wikipedia makes reference to kriegsmen Death Riders who
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 11, 2007 5:45:04 GMT -5
Deathkorps is ONLY based on WW1 German trench troopers! Not WW2 that's the Armageddon Steel Legion which is like the mechanized German infantry in WW2. To the reasons why the Death Korps is so sucidial: 500 years ago there was heresy on Krieg and the Empire bombed the planet with nukes. Now Krieg is a hell of planet to live on and the Death Korps takes suicdial mission to cleanse themselves from the heresy of their ancestors. The prefer using trench and siege warfare and try to bring their enemies down that way. At least in the German IG Codex every famous regiment gets a short description along with their prefered special and heavy weapons and their doctrines of battle
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2007 11:47:21 GMT -5
so do we, for some reason all these guys have seemed to have forgotten what happened. and btw, i doubt that the german language will have survived 38 thousand years from now.
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Jan 28, 2007 3:04:00 GMT -5
Good Point
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 28, 2007 7:07:04 GMT -5
The Death Korps of Kreig would never forget thier history, they just choose to pretend they have forgotten in
If you were made to sit in Trenchlines and fight like the DKoK, would you forget why you were there? Why your History is like it is?
No. I know I wouldnt.
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