Ork 1.5 Trukk n Kan Curiousity

[treadiculous]

Warboss + Armour + Klaw
3 Nobz + 1 Doc + BattleWagon + Deff Rolla (Troop)

Big Mek + Armour + Kustom Force Field
11 Boyz + Trukk

Deff Dred + CCW + Skorcha (Troop)

Kan x 3 Rokkits
Kan x 3 Grotzooka
Kan x 3 Skorcha

11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Ram
11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Ram
11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Ram


= 1442


I haven't played with me Orkziz in ages, and I was contemplating the solid wall of clankin' Kans with some noisy ol' RamTrukk KlawBoyz to boot..

The BattleWagon and Deff Rolla are so I can have a go with a Deff Rolla (I've not ever used on before for some stupid reason!) and seemed a cool way for the Warboss and his trusty (ish) cohort to head into battle!

I've not used RamTrukk KlawBoyz before, and have a feeling they'll get shot at a lot on the way in, once they get there they should be able to make a mess of stuff though. I reckon I'll concentrate them on a flank to roll up any gunline from the outer deployment heading inwards in a frenzy of collisions, carnage and combat!

The Trukk of Boyz with the Big Mek in is to provide the Mek loads of extra wounds and a AV of 10 while he hangs back behind the wall of Kans with the Deff Dred camping the rear objective (making sure no pesky skimmers cruise in on it)

Most of the Kan wall advances after the Trukks have zoomed off heading for the other flank and centre, and will try and tear through what ever the Boys left for them, the rokkit kans will probably hold mid-range so they can fall back to deal with outflankers etc, while Grotzookaz will make a mess of any massed infantry!

I have 58 points spare.. more klaws for the Nobz?.. some extra toys for the Mek?... Red Paint?...

vicious criticism very welcome!


ATAK ATAK ATAK DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA



- for those that have seen red dwarf series one, sing the tune that Cat sings about fish, except about 'umies... so it goes:

We'ez Guna Beat ya Little 'Umie: Kuz We'ez Likez Eatin ya Legs,
We'ez Guna Beat ya Little 'Umie: KUS WE LIKE BEATIN 'EADS
We'ez Guna Beat ya Little 'Umie: Kuz We'ez Causin ya Deff,
We'ez Guna Beat ya Little 'Umie: KUS WE NEVA DUN NUFFIN ELSE!


Hur Hur Hur

Orkz Orkz Orkz Orkz ....Orkz Orkz Orkz Orkz

[WestRider]

I'd rather see all Rokkits on the Kanz, since popping Transports so the Boyz can get at the chewy center is one of the big hassles for a list like this. At the very least, I'd switch the Skorchas for something else, it's a waste of their BS3, and slow Units are bad platforms for Template Weapons anyhow.

A Waaagh! Banna, a Kombi-Skorcha, and maybe a single Klaw or Big Choppa would round out the Nobz nicely. Might be a good idea to get a BossPole in there, too, since they've got decent odds of ending up having to take a Ld Test on fairly mediocre numbers at some point.

Boss Poles are good for Trukk Mobz, too, since they can't really rely on Mob Rule much.

So yeah, decent basic concept, could use more Rokkits and big flashy sticks.

Also, Red Dwarf reference FTW!

[treadiculous]

So.. I played this list against an Eldar army... and lost quite badly.

In part the Eldar had a couple of advantages, first - I sent the above list to the player of the eldar and told him to build a list to beat it, to which he thought I meant we would then play a kill point style game. (I had in mind made it more for grabbing objectives but kill point wasa a viable option)... so we went for Kill Points stylee.

I had no idea what he was bringing until he put ity on the table, after I had finished deploying, and I still insisted on putting down 3 objectives in secret for myself...

Anyways.. I deplyed first and basically lost the game during this phase - it wasn't that it was really bad, but I had no real plan in mind and stuck too many fast vehicles on the 'slow' flank with the walkers in.

Thsi slow flank saw a lot of action early on, stupidly I walked the kan mobs and dred out of range of the kustom force field while the mek was stuck in a Trukk... and I had held back with warboss + nobs + deffrolla for fear of their early demise (how very un orky) and then only made matters worse by failing to prioritise my targets (thus sprawling all over the place) ...and then taking bait and sending said warboss after a meagre unit of swooping hawks... while failing en route to ram through a Wave Serpent.

Meanwhile I was getting shot to sh*t and tripping over myself and a Wraithlord + Avatar combo stomping all over my dred and kan mobs...

I was a bit out of practice on the rules too.. so forgot about open topped rules (the ability to disembark and assault even if the vehicle moved), the number of hits in combat vs vehicles (thought it was like grenades; ie 1 hit regardless of number of attacks) and forgot to add furious charge +1S to power klaw hits...

This meant his vehicles barely got scratched and he was picking of my units one by one in tidy concentrated missile salvos....


All that said, it was one of the best games I've played in ages... only in the final stages was there any redemtion, when the deffrolla ploughed into the wraithlord, then through a wrecked killa kan and into the avatar - technically not legal (I think), as it is still ramming a freindly model, even if it is wrecked, but by then the winner was clear and it was more for laughs.. and it failed to kill either Eldar MC's yet did reveal to me the path I should have followed from the start - wreckless abandon at full speed!

We've agreed to a re-match with 1000 points remaining the same and 500 being exchanged if we want, so I'm playing with this concept:

My 1000 I'm keeping from the previous:
Warboss + 3 Nobs + Painboy + Battlewagon + Deffrolla
11 Boys + Nob + Trukk + Klaw + Ram
11 Boys + Nob + Trukk + Klaw + Ram
3 kans + rokkits
3 Kans + rokkits
Big Mek + Kustom Forcefield

Add:
Battlewagon + Killkannon + deffrolla
20 Boys + Nob + Klaw
20 Boys + Nob + Klaw
The Nob Battlewagon to get 'Ard Case, 4 Rokkits and Kannon and loose the Deffrolla

This leaves ne with around 50 / 100 points to play with.

My plan is to use the kans to shield 1 of the large mob of boys as they advance, with the mek securely hidden amongst them..
The Nobs and Warboss will start beside th ekillkannon wagon, and hop in for a turn, while it shoots as it advances, the other large mob of 20 boys will jump in the 'ard case wagon and head forward in that (with the plan to bait one of his wave serpents with anti-tank units in it).

I'm trying to make the Warboss and Nobs unit capable of surviving the Avatars 4 attacks when it charges and killing it off with klaws (so i'll be adding a few more nobs then!) and hopefully tackling the wraithlord with killkannon and rokkit shooting plus a large unit of boys.. (for I fear its instant death to my warboss).

For the record he fielded:

Wraithlord
3 Wraithguard + Warlock + Farseer in Serpent
Avatar
5 Swooping Hawk + Exarch (dropping big pie plates on turn 2)
6 Fire Dragons in Serpent
Fire prism
10 Guardians with Missile Launcher
10 Guardians with Missile Launcher
1 War Walker

I figured Eldar are good vs elite forces, so i'm going for a bit more horde style, with some more long ranged high strength guns, he'll need to get close to take them down with the wraithguard and fire dragons, at which point the embarked units can charge into whatever is trying to cripple the vehicle.

This time I'll have a dedicated slow area, a shooty bit (with the wagons in) and a fast flank of trukks.. and hoepfully won't be worrying about secret objectives (which on a side note I managed to hold one, contest one and leave the final one uncontested).

I have some pics which I may post (the close combat between the walkers and MC's looks pretty cool..)



anyways.. any thoughts on the 500 point options?

[treadiculous]

I had a little re-think... mainly because I wasn't happy with units starting outside their transport battlewagons, and the mix of fast and slow...

So I made a fast transport list:

Fast Wagon List

Da AvataKillaz:

Warboss + Armour + Klaw-
3 Nobz + 1 Doc
Battlewagon + Deffrolla
Cybork Nobs + Waargh Banner
Cybork + Attack Squig Boss
(more gubbins to come, see below)

Da WraithHunterz:

10 Boyz + Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Plank
Mek + Klaw


Da Boyz:

11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Plank*
11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Plank*
11 Boyz, Nob + Klaw + Trukk + Plank*

Ol' SkrapNutz:

Deff Dred + Skorch + Big Shoota*

This is the 1000 points I have to keep. The astersisk shows changes that fall outside the 1000 but are part of the unit - CCW for Dred, Planks for Trukks

Da Wagonz:

Battlewagon + Killkannon (Boom Wagon)
Battlewagon (Burn Wagon)
5 Burna Boys (maybe 3 meks?)

Extra Bitz (with the 80 odd points spare):
1 Nob + Cybork + 2 Klaw + 2 Big Choppa

1502

This list feels a bit more cohesive, focussing on speed.
Planks seem a really good idea against eldar vehicles, as the chances of hitting are much higher compared to ramming skimmers.
I still have a bit of an issue with the Fire Dragons / Wraithguard hunting my Killkannon, not sure what I can do about this... I want to bring a kilkannon as I've just received my Supa Kannon from ForgeWorld and it looks too cool to leave on the side lines! - I guess I just keep some trukk boys nearby..

- edit - I'm thinking I should not upgrade the dred, nor the big choppas and give the Burna Wagon a Deffrolla...?

[Hookah, S.C.]

A very mahogany world upon which the Eldar and orks fight.

[treadiculous]

- Hookah:

Its a dried up river bed, the flow of pebbles and stones has carved small channels into the surface.

honest!

(I like my dark grey table, it means that unpainted base boards blend in).