chaos 1K

[loempiaketzer]

Hi there,
Since im playing guard and have a boatload of men going on the field everytime. (always bringing at least 50 men on the table) I was wondering to get in a second army for warhammer 40K. It seems a little odd as i play both that i have 5 armys of fantasy and only 1 in 40k. my eye fell to chaos, since i dont play them in fantasy. I would like to play a slightly themed slaanesh-ian army. My first objective will be to get a 1K list. Things im looking for in this list;
- a deamon prince
- a low number of models
- slaanesh models!

Since chaos fantasy doesnt field the best slaanesh models (gaming wise) i wanted to get them going in 40K in the hopes they fair a bit better there. Also, chicks with awesome guns is always a good thing to see! (once i get to field/make them.... the plan is to buy regular space marines, slaanesh-afy them. and make them all female. might be quite difficult, but this army wont pop up over night, so thats okay)

The list i am currently struggeling with;

1000pnt Chaos space marines - The Empress's retinue

- Lei'Lanni
Deamon prince of slaanesh
wings
whip of submission
155pnt

- 7 Fiends of the flesh (count as plague marine's)
1 champion + powerfist + combiflamer
2 plasma guns
transport: Rhino + twin linked bolter
182 pnt (incl transport)

- 10 Noise marines
all sonic blasters
1 champion + powerfist
290 pnt

- 1 obliterator
xxpnt


this list bring me to around 800 points.
basicly i have 2 units - 1 to sit back/kite (noise marines) and 1 to go hard for an objective (plague marines in rhino.
Plague's will get aid from the deamon prince and the noise marines will get backup fire from the obliterator.

what i would like to add;
1 dreadnought + additional bolter arm and DN-weapon
1 obliterator (since i got 79 points left, this seems the best option now)

I dont know if this is any kind of solid choice. Im not looking for a tournament winning list but more of a fun list. the dread seems fun with his randomness and since i cant really hurt myself with the dualbolter the 1 on his crazed result shouldnt matter that much.
the obliterators didnt do much for me the last 3 games :/ what do you normally use them for?
i did some testplaying with the plageu marines and a nurgle DP but it seems to be,... a bit dull for some reason. you need a bazillion shots to kill them and when you finally hit some enemy they probably get slain in combat. I would like to break this with the noisemarines and some other random stuff. (the list i tried was something like;
DP- Nurgle - wings - warptime
2*7 plagues + Pfist + 2 plasma in rhino
1 oblit
4 bikers + 2 melta
didnt really satisfy me....)

Anyhow. Looking at the list. i have 2 troop choises (a bit on the tight side i guess) with 2 support units for them both...
plague + DP + dread
noisies + 2 olbits...

would it work? im certainly going to testplay this anytime soon. if i made any big mistakes... please let me know.

[WestRider]

Slaanesh Daemon Prince: Possibly the best HQ in the Dex.

"Plague Marine" Squad: The things I run into around here, I'd rather see these guys kitted out at least mostly with Melta. Otherwise decent

Noise Marines: They're way too expensive, unfortunately. But since you want to use them: I'd drop the PowerFist Champ (Since they're a Fire Support Unit, and even if you do take the Champ, the Fist wastes his I5). I'd probably also go for 2x6, which gives you more Scoring options, the option for two BlastMasters, and a Sacred Number.

Obliterators: Another of the mainstays of the Chaos Dex. I'm kind of curious how they're failing to work for you. Generally you point them at things and they die. Bonus points for Lashing Units into tight clumps and piling on the Plasma Cannon.

CC Dreads are kind of lame, unfortunately, since they have a nasty habit of going into Fire Frenzy at the worst time and hosing some Unit down with ineffective Bolter Fire when they really needed to charge. General opinion is that they're best used as the only way to get a Multi-Melta in a Chaos Army.

[loempiaketzer]

well, the noise marines sound oke in units of 6. I guess i will go dualblastmaster then?
they might not be the best unit in the book. but they are damn cool. killing units with the brown-noise!
and why is 6 a sacrednumber?

As for obliterators... i always seem to miss my target with the to hit or even when i hit for armor penetration or to wound to get lots of 1's. I think it has something to do with proxying my marines. Everytime i play with my painted armys my rolls are way better!!!

The melta's in the plagemarine sqaud seem to be,... weird. But i guess since they are assault rather than rapid fire it seems to make sense for this kind of unit.

CC dread lame because of?? i never played against or with a dread before...

so, anyways, this would leave me with this list

1 DP
slaanesh + whip + wings

7 plagues - 2 melta - commander+Pfist in a rhino with twin linked bolter
2*6 noise marines with 2*5 sonic blasters + 2 blastmasterboomboxes with the turbobass
2 obliterators

which leaves me with 54 points for a 1K list....
what to do, waht to do.... meh,... going to re-read the book! for any tips and comments. always welcome!

[Peter Cooman]

each of the chaos gods has a sacred number. You used to be able to take a free champion if you had the sacred number of models in the squad.

slaanesh: 6
nurgle : 7
khorne : 8
tzeentch : 9

That's why you see so many 7 men plague squads and 8 men berzerkers. (i think they box the plagues like that 2, and the berzerkers are 8 men in the battleforce)

As for obliterators, i only have 1. and it's a classic model. To be honest, i find thee new models disgusting (not in the good way), and i'm one of those guys who wont play with models he dislikes.

I use 2 havoc squads. 1 6-man squad with 2 heavy bolters, and 1 8-man squad with 3 missile launchers and icon of chaos glory. And of course a defiler

[loempiaketzer]

hmmm okay, good to know!
so far im learning more and more about CSM which is nice.
probably, when i semi-settle on a list the new book wil hit the army and i will, again, be flabergasted about the options and how stuff works so i have to re-do my entire approach. (sigh) happened to me with tomb kings... got a 2K army finished and painted. new book! army = useless...

but still... what do i need to use the spare 54 points for?
they also call me No-clue-Suzy....

[Peter Cooman]

could it be you displayed that on the carpe noctem forum?

Buy a chaos spawn and a combi flamer for the plague marine champion.

Chaos spawn is utterly useless, but fun to model

[WestRider]

Obliterator Models: I convert mine from AoBR Terminators. No pics yet, hopefully soon.

Keep trying with them, they are a good Unit if your dice don't betray you.

Dreads: Chaos Dreads have to roll on a table every turn to see if they go crazy. On a one, they stand still and shoot all their weapons twice at the nearest visible Unit, friend or foe. On a six, they basically gain Fleet and Rage. It makes it really hard to plan with them.

[Peter Cooman]

yeah fire frenzy is a female dog.

I only used mine once. And it was a big dissapointment. But i mostly play orcs, so missile launchers work better against them anyway. I only ever take mine if i know i'm up against mekboy dread armies.