How to counter: Vehicle heavy Marines

[egon]

I was at the LGS today and a guy mentioned his undefeated Marine list. It looked something like the following and I was wondering how you would counter it. The only catch is that the only tanks available are Chimeras, Russes and Hydras.

HQ
Marine version of the CCS, lots of gear

Elites
Two rifle dreads
Assault Terminators in Land Raider

Troops
Two Full Tac squads in rhinos

Fast Attack
Two Land Speeders

Heavy Support
Two Predators
Land Raider

I was thinking of a mechanized veteran army with two demolishers and an executioner. The vets will act as anti-tank with help from a pair of Vendettas and the tanks will take care of the rest.

[jenburdoo]

Hydras (and any other autocannons you have) are good for handling Land Speeders and Rhinos. I don't know what heavy and special weapons you have but missile launchers, plasma and melta will do for the rest if you have them. Alternatively, deluge the infantry with fire -- they WILL fail saves.

[zeke]

Mounted melta vets will cut through his armor like paper. If you want to deal with his Marines/Termies, I would recommend anything plasma (SWS, Vets, Executioner, etc). Plasma weapons are very effective against MEQ.

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

Vendettas and other stuff containing a good helping of plasma?

[bomberman]

Autocannons are your best friend(with some melta guns for heavy armour).

I like to run a 50 man blob squad with 5 melta guns backed up by a couple of autocannon squads. Just make sure you have something with a power fist/melta bombs to counter charge those pesky dreadnoughts!

[krasimirova]

The setup you mention works..

Facing only; 2 speeders, 2 rhinos, 2 preds and a Landraider shouldn't be too big a problem.. Vendettas can take care of those..

Lemans can take care of his infantry..

Since you have his list, it is pretty easy to tailor a counter to it..

[egon]

Apr 3, 2012 2:35:07 GMT -5 krasimirova said:

The setup you mention works..

Facing only; 2 speeders, 2 rhinos, 2 preds and a Landraider shouldn't be too big a problem.. Vendettas can take care of those..

Lemans can take care of his infantry..

Since you have his list, it is pretty easy to tailor a counter to it..

He actually has two Land Raiders, one as Heavy Support and one as a dedicated transport. Should have made that clearer when writing it down.

I'm thinking about something as following to counter his list:

HQ:
CCS with 4xPlasma, Commander with PP in Chimera

Elites:
Marbo
5 Storm Troopers with 2xMelta

Troops:
Veteran Squad, Grenadiers with 3xPlasma, Sergeant with PP in Chimera

Veteran Squad with 3xMelta, Sergeant with PP in Chimera

Veteran Squad with 3xMelta, Sergeant with PP

Fast Attack:
2 Vendettas (flying solo)

Heavy Support
Plasmacutioner

Two Demolishers, one with Sponson PC in squad

Two LRBT with LC in squad.

Would this work or should I drop one of the russes for a pair of Hydras to counter his transports and skimmers?
Also, would this be a workable list, all-round?

[Lord General Armstrong]

Undefeated, obviously that guy has never faced the wrath of the Corilithian 602nd and 603rd Battlegroup! But seriously that list doesn't seem to spectacular, the members of my gaming group field a similar lists, except the Tac Marines are spread across 4 Razor Backs. With my experience I can safely say so far my overwhelming firepower can bring down the mightiest of warmachines.

I generally play gunline, so I will have 4 platoons of 40 guardsmen each one with either 4 lascannons or autocannons. My opening turn will be popping transports and using my Leman Russ Battle Tanks to kill their now exposed occupants. (Not an original idea I know but it works) Command squads will order the guardsmen to bring it down then take pot shots at other vehicles with their own lascannons out of the safety of their Chimeras armoured hatch.

[hektorreborn]

Vendettas. Scout up the flanks shoot up the land raiders then start wrecking his other vehicles side armor. Or use them to drop off melta vets!