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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2007 18:00:03 GMT -5
PS any woman reading this please don't think I'm "havin a go." I know that shoes are a nessecity in life any you can never have too many. LOL I was told it was going to be £50 by my store manager. I posted this a while ago but can't remember where. Hopefully it will be released with a new codex but that's not very likely given the number of other codexes that need updating. I want one just for the coolness factor. I'm sick of Tau having better tanks than us (when they're fully upgraded) so it's about time we get access to a better toy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 2:23:11 GMT -5
I have a deal with the wife at the moment that I wont complain about her cloths/shoes/hand bag collection/shopping and she cannot complain about my hobby.. that being said.. I foresee 12 new pairs of shoes.. and 3 baneblades when that puppy comes out.. all in all.. a good deal with both parties happy.. aside from the fact that the wife will have one hell of a time getting me to leave the house as I try to build/paint and then playtest those bad boys  |
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2007 5:36:14 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, but Baneblade are warmachines and take so you can only use one of them, unless you're in a game with more than enough points and army organisation charts you may use. So 3 are a TOTAL WASTE of money and don't forget that every of these babies costs more than 600 points and still has a somewhat crappy rear and side armour for it's size... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 6:07:17 GMT -5
Yeah and your point is? armor is just slightly better than a demolisher.. but its the scare factor.. who cares if they suck.. Use them in mega battles and scare the others out of their skin.. mainly due to the fact that my club doesnt have Curt like fanatics who have titans waiting in the closets so they will be the scary items.. then you just blast them away with the AC of LRs on one flank go go distractions.. |
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Post by Woz on Jan 18, 2007 9:50:35 GMT -5
But if they bring out more SH Tanks then people might start playing bigger games. Me and a friend used to play 20,000 pts per side back in the old 2nd ed days.
They use to take all weekend to play but it was an amazing sight to see 20,000 pts of IG and Space Marines vs and 20,000 pt Genestealers cult army (basicaly IG and Tyranids) or Orks.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 18, 2007 10:08:38 GMT -5
As long the games are big enough it's no problem to use more SH vehicles. But below 5k point games it's nearly impossible to use more than 1. Oh and my point was that you would use about 1900 points for 3 Baneblades when you could get thousands of other nice things for that  One Baneblade is scary enough, so you don't need 3 bullet magnets if one already works well enough |
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 18, 2007 14:56:26 GMT -5
Right
From what I heard by asking about
The staff only hear about Codex Updates like, 3 months after they are finished, 3 months before the release
My local GW Staff told me that this is Complete and utter Bull$£%&, They wont be doing a Updated Codex,
So if it does come out, it will be a planflet type thingy, like errrm, That Warhammer one that came out a while ago. with a few Updated rules in it.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 19, 2007 4:15:57 GMT -5
sadly that's quite believable azalar. the facts as I know them:
1. gw is a commercial business and is in it for profit
2. gw bought forgeworld
3. forgeworld already has the baneblade kit made in resin
4. resin is vastly different than plastic as far as how you build a kit - a turret is a big hunk of resin to forgeworld, where in plastic kit land you have half a dozen turret parts to build the structure of the thing.
5. gw would only lose money making the baneblade into a plastic kit, both on constructing the kit and selling it at cut rate prices over their more expensive resin kit.
in the end: gw already has the baneblade, why would they economize it and spend money to make less profit?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2007 7:46:40 GMT -5
So Most Likely It'll Be Terrain pieces like they did for the battle of Macragge Box Set and the Aquila Lander
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 19, 2007 8:26:36 GMT -5
And if It did come out in Plastic, It would in the same ammount of Parts as about 2 or 3 Leman Russes, So It would also take more time.
In my Opinion, and what I think is a Educated Guess
The Baneblade will be staying a Resin Forgeworld Product, And will not be made into Plastic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2007 10:29:23 GMT -5
lol, but ordering over the net means I have to pay postage! There'snew stuff on ebay that even when you include postage is still cheaper then a GW store. I hope that all 40k players start playing IG so the can use Baneblades........... They'll soon get bored and ebay'll be flooded with cheap Baneblades  . Ebay works. There's also the Warstore (www.thewarstore.com) those guys are very reliable. Thye charge 20%off GW prices and have 4 dollar shipping regardless of how much you buy. Only downside is you have to phone order, but I think it's worth it... -Ben |
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Post by Woz on Jan 19, 2007 22:40:19 GMT -5
in the end: gw already has the baneblade, why would they economize it and spend money to make less profit? If sales of the FW Baneblade drop then GW could make a killing by producing a simpler, cheaper plastic version. Making a plastic kit form an already exsisting resin kit is cheaper then developing a new model. Just about everyone would buy a plastic Baneblade (even if it meant playing IG) and some people would still buy the FW ones simply because they're "better". |
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 20, 2007 1:48:17 GMT -5
in my book, resin is not better than plastic kits. I am not a fan of forgeworld products, they require alot of love to make nice looking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2007 7:05:38 GMT -5
Plastic release is set for September. As for the matter of profit, how many Baneblades do you see, make it plastic and how many will you see? It costs more to make resin kits than plastic kits hence the huge price hike. Change it to plastic with a slight reduction in profit margin and you sell more, simple economics. Cities of Death terrain kits have already proved this.
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 20, 2007 9:01:14 GMT -5
Yes. Cities of Death have proved this, lets just recap
Cities of Death = Terrian, Everyone Wants / Needs Terrian
Baneblade = Super Heavy Battle Tank only Avalible to ImpGuard, one of the Least Played Armies.
I am the only IG Player, Apart from a Heretic Player, down at my local GW.
Everyone has SM, Necrons, 'Nids and Orcs.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 20, 2007 10:38:43 GMT -5
Erm Azalar you're not really correct on the least played army... SM and CSM are most played followed by IG... While least played should be DE. Just because they aren't played much around your place doesn't mean that nobody else is playing them. |
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 20, 2007 10:44:50 GMT -5
I meant round my area
Not in total, I know they are Largly Played, hence all the people on here
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 20, 2007 10:50:50 GMT -5
Baneblade = Super Heavy Battle Tank only Avalible to ImpGuard, one of the Least Played Armies. Then you should say that next time and not state that IG is one of the least played armies overall |
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 20, 2007 10:53:45 GMT -5
One of the least played armies near me*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 8:31:17 GMT -5
dont let them get to you Azalar.. besides I think my area makes up for yours.. we have 5 IG players.. out of 20 regulars.. sad is that 10 are SM/Chaos, 3 Orks, 2 Tau... with more SM players being born everyday..
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Post by majorjav on Jan 22, 2007 8:47:02 GMT -5
About the "maybe" plastic Baneblade. Plastic products are more interesting for GW since they have a new stuff on computer enabling them to create new models rapidly and cheaper than having a real sculptor...See the new wraith lord or eldar weapons platforms for example.
So a plastic baneblade would be very interesting for them because cheaper and thus more people would buy it!!! See about wave serpent and pirhana...
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 22, 2007 9:53:04 GMT -5
dont let them get to you Azalar.. besides I think my area makes up for yours.. we have 5 IG players.. out of 20 regulars.. sad is that 10 are SM/Chaos, 3 Orks, 2 Tau... with more SM players being born everyday.. Have to agree with you. Popped into my Local Games Workshop on Sunday, and it was 40k begginner day, so I thought Id see the level of standard they can play at. Very Very busy, about 20 - 25 new players, so I decided to stay and help Paul, got my Carer to bomb over my ImpGuard, since he was on his way anyway, and its all boxed ready to go, Codexs and supplements. When we were all ready for a big game, Paul asked all the Space Marine players to raise thier hands, and about 15 of the kids raised thier hands, I was like "What The ... ", So it was some big massive Space Marine Vs Traitor Imperial Guard [My 3k and some Begginners 3k, He was only other Guard Player =( ], Orcs, 'Nids and Chaos Space Marines But 15 out of 25 Players now turn to Space Marines, where are the good old Days, when the Guard were heavily played in my area. Have they all deserted the Guard Leigions and fallen to the draw of the Space Marines? |
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Post by Goddess of Darkness on Jan 22, 2007 16:05:31 GMT -5
Almost all newbies start with Marines i have found....some stick with them and some don't....so i'd be starting the recruitment tactics azalar lol
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 22, 2007 16:08:26 GMT -5
I plan to.
I have been told by Paul, the guy whos worked there since I started that I am the only Newbie who started straight with Guard, everyone else went with Marines and/or 'Nids.
Im also gonna try get some Members down on here, i found some 40K Profiles on Myspace [Can I say that?] so im posting links on them and such.
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Post by sammy1979 on Jan 27, 2007 15:33:35 GMT -5
just joined up here but had guard for about 18 years, hell when i first started, guard armour didn't evan exsist so im not worried though i fear way to many guard battalions cluttering up the table. any way the way my armour lasts against tau and necrons i could do with a super heavy just to get passed them broadside suits
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