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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 18, 2012 19:02:03 GMT -5
I'm kicking about the idea of using a 1:48 scale model of an existing aircraft as a "count as" for a thunderbolt. Personally I'm not too bothered about the real aircraft's role, more of the asthetic fitting the 40K Imperium. Chief contender at the moment is the BAC Lightning.   There's also the Forgeworld Vulture and Forgeworld Lightning that may have a real world equivalents. Interested in what anyone else may think would fit the role of the Imperial Navy flyer. And if anyone suggests just buying a Forgeworld Thunderbolt I'll be tempted to set that person alight. |
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Post by AshotNINJA on Jul 18, 2012 19:44:03 GMT -5
ok... ive thought of this alot too and heres what i imagined would make good imperial styled flyers from real life aircraft.... plus some stuff ive considered good for the role.. (ps, these are only american forces aircraft)
thunderbolt -
F94c starfirefighter
F8 crusader
lightning -
f86 sabre
f100 supersabre
avenger-
a10 thunderbolt (warthog)
A1 skyraider
valk-
x22 osprey
UH1y venom
vulture-
ah64 apache
AH1 cobra /supercobra/viper
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Post by Julian Sharps on Jul 18, 2012 19:47:15 GMT -5
Personally, I think it would be cool to use an A-10 Thunderbolt as a Thunderbolt Close Air Support variant. Maybe use the GAU-8 as a counts-as Exterminator Autocannon?
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Post by Machine Gun Kelly on Jul 19, 2012 3:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Jul 19, 2012 5:05:39 GMT -5
Looks like a Hawker Swift.
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 19, 2012 15:15:56 GMT -5
Some great suggestions. Out of interest MGK I looked for a model of one of those Saabs. Cheapest one was over £35. Personally it reminded me of a MiG15 I'd already thought about the Sabre and A10 but the Starfighter really does fit the vision in my head. As a picture paints a thousand words what do you all think about the following as suitable for the 40K universe and which Imperial aircraft would each one br suited to. Vampire  Strikemaster   MiG15  A10  Me262  Starfighter aka Widow Maker  But this is the MiG25 Foxbat. In 1983 I joined my first Anti Aircraft unit and this aircraft was placed in our minds as the nemesis of the western world. So many rumours arose about its capabilities. About as technically advanced as a felling axe yet just as rugged, powerful and lethal.   Not having the greatest eye for things I'm keen to know what everyone thinks as to which fits best as an Imperial Navy Aircraft and which Forgeworld/GW type it is most like. |
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 19, 2012 15:33:35 GMT -5
I think the Vampire or maybe the Strikemaster is probably the best of the lot. 40k tends not to go in for the streamlined shape of the traditional jets, particularly delta wings. You'd be better off with something that's slightly unusual and not as iconic as, say, an A-10. I used a Black Widow as a counts-as flyer, for example.
Reds
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 19, 2012 15:52:32 GMT -5
Maybe put valkyrie wings and tailplane to tie it into 40k?
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Post by optimat on Jul 19, 2012 17:16:27 GMT -5
I always wondered what plane that transformer was modeled to be... and now I know  |
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Post by magot on Jul 20, 2012 10:00:09 GMT -5
Personally, I think it would be cool to use an A-10 Thunderbolt as a Thunderbolt Close Air Support variant. Maybe use the GAU-8 as a counts-as Exterminator Autocannon? If I look at the 40K Thunderbolt I always think of the Good Old Spitfire ! And the spitfire preliude trembles through my mind |
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Post by Trickstick on Jul 22, 2012 8:17:43 GMT -5
Personally, I think it would be cool to use an A-10 Thunderbolt as a Thunderbolt Close Air Support variant. Maybe use the GAU-8 as a counts-as Exterminator Autocannon? The A-10 would be perfect for the new Avenger Strike Fighter, seeing as it is a homage to the A-10. You would need to add a rear stubber somehow. |
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Post by optimat on Jul 22, 2012 12:23:36 GMT -5
Why not an F-35? That and some Valk bits (thruster swap mostly) would look ace for 40k?
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Post by RedCuffs on Jul 28, 2012 4:47:33 GMT -5
Still been thinking a lot about the choices here. I had to agree with Reds, the DH Vampire fitted the image I had in my head better than anything else. Or the DH Venom which is a very similar aircraft. So I set about looking for them on the web andthought I'd nab a bargain somewhere. No, couldn't find one that was under £30 inc P&P. Dissapionted. For that money I May as well get a Valk and bash it. Then I found this. Not my first choice by far but as my budget is the over riding issue at £10 each I thought I can't go wrong.  I will try to tie it into the Imperium asthetic with a bit of a kit bash. |
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Post by Vice-Shogun Himura on Aug 1, 2012 12:33:57 GMT -5
I bought Three A-10 on E-bay to be made into Flyers od some kind. Also i using a F-117a as a Space Marine air support but have not nailed rules for it.
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Post by Jackal-0311 on Aug 1, 2012 13:36:06 GMT -5
I really like the older stuff for the imperial flyers, I think it fits better with the 40k theme.
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Aug 1, 2012 15:19:23 GMT -5
I really like the older stuff for the imperial flyers, I think it fits better with the 40k theme. This. Imperial aviation design still hasn't reached the sleek profiles or delta wings you start seeing around the 60s and 70s, and certainly hasn't gotten to modern aircraft. Stuff from the 1950s, when they were still experimenting with jet aircraft design, would be the closest to Imperial asthetics. An exception is the F117 that Himura mentioned, which is perfect for an SM strike craft. Try looking at the Su 25 Frogfoot as an option. It has a profile similar to an A-10, but isn't so iconic that people will go "Oh, that's an A-10" instead of whatever you name your flyer. Reds |
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Post by Vice-Shogun Himura on Aug 1, 2012 20:29:54 GMT -5
Hey Reds Thanks for the endorsement for the F-117, means a lot to me.
I took the A-10 basically because it is pure awesome, it better be I bought four of them LOL not by choice I though I only had two so I bought another on E-bay then counted again and had four of them. I may use the Avenger rules but I going to need an another book it seems since Forge World made an air book . I feeling kind of dumb though for buying another one.
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Post by Hookah, S.C. on Aug 2, 2012 15:50:52 GMT -5
While not related to the conversation: I love the MiG-25
'Hey, boris we need a fast plan
Ok Vlad, well how about we just stick some wings on these two GIANT JET ENGINES and go get some borscht!'
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Post by badgersplatter on Aug 24, 2012 1:53:58 GMT -5
I've just embarked on a similar project as I don't like the look of the Vendetta model for what will be used almost entirely as a ground attack fighter. The biggest concern is size, as you don't want opponents claiming modelling for advantage by having a flyer that is smaller and therefore harder to see than the rules dictate. Best match I have found (with a WW2 aesthetic which I wanted) is a 1:48 P-47 Jug.
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