Is this list adequate enough to deal with tyranids

[scotti88]

Here's a list a put together. I'm open to advice pls let me know what y'all think

HQ
Company Command Squad 50pts
Lord Creed 90pts
CS Kell 85pts
Medi Pak 30pts
Vox caster 5pts
Melta Gun 10pts


Troops
PCS 30pts
Power fist 15pts
Vox 5pts
Platoon Standard 15 pts
Heavy Bolter 10 pts (Heavy weapon team)

Infantry Sqd 50pts
Srg- Melta Bombs 5pts
Melta Gun 10pts
Grenade launcher 5 pts
Vox 5 pts

Infantry Sqd 50 pts
Srg melta bombs 5 pts
Vox 5 pts
Flamer 5 pts
melta 10 pts

Heavy Weapons Sqd 60 pts
Auto cannon x2 10 pts
Bolter 5 pts

Troops
PCS 30pts
Plasma Pistol 10pts
Vox 5pts
Platoon Standard 15 pts
Missile Launcher 15 pts (Heavy weapon team)

Infantry Sqd 50pts
Srg- Melta Bombs 5pts
Flamer 5pts
Grenade launcher 5 pts
Vox 5 pts

Infantry Sqd 50 pts
Srg melta bombs 5 pts
Vox 5 pts
Flamer 5 pts
melta 10 pts

Heavy Weapons Team 60 pts
Auto Cannon 5 pts
bolter 5 pts
lascannon 15 pts

Elites
Ratlings 50pts

Stormtroopers 85pts
5 Stormtroopers 80pts
Flamer 5pts
Grenade launcher 5pts

Fast Attack
Scout Snetinal 35pts
Auto Cannon 5pts
Hunter killer 10pts

Valkyries x2 200 pts
Rocket Pods 60pts
Hvy Bolter 20pts

Heavy Support
Lemun Russ Exe 190 pts
Plasma Cannon 40pts
Lascannon 15pts
Camo Netting 20pts

Lemun Russ Demo 165pts
Cmdr Pask 50pts
Multi Melta 30pts
Lascannon 15 pts

TOTAL 1955

EXTRA 545pts

Basilisk 125 pts
Hvy Bolter free
Hunter Killer 10pts
Extra Armour 15pts
Camo Netting 30 pts

Lemun Russ 150 pts (added to the lemun russ sqd)

Vetrans 70 pts (Troops)
Carapace Armour 30pts

Chimera Transport for Sqd1 55pts
Hvy flamer

Lord Commisor 70 pts (HQ)

[WestRider]

First off, when posting Lists, please don't include Points Breakdowns. A final total for each Unit is fine, but individual upgrade costs break the Forum Rules.

That out of the way, sorry, but no. I don't want to be mean about this, but in all honesty, this is a pretty terrible list.

It also isn't even legal, unfortunately. You only get to take one Special Weapon per Squad.

Even if it were legal, it would get eaten by even a halfway decent Nid List. You've got very little actual hitting power, very low Model Count for a Guard List, and a ton of Points used up on inefficient or outright useless gear.

A few specific notes, to try to give you some idea of how to improve it:
- First off, it really doesn't look like you've got enough Models to be playing at 2K. I'm guessing this is pretty much everything you've got? If so, I'd probably stick to 1K, 1250 or so for a while. When I'm running Hybrid Guard like this at 2K, I generally try to put 150 Infantry Models on the Board. 100 is pretty much the bare minimum.

- Second concept: Focus. With a very few exceptions, Guard don't really get all-rounder Units. Figure out one thing you want each Squad/Vehicle to do, and don't give it anything that doesn't directly help it do that. For instance: A Flamer is an Anti-Infantry Weapon, a Meltagun is an Anti-Tank Weapon. As a general principle* they shouldn't be mixed in the same Unit. Similarly, a Plasma Pistol is a close-ranged, mobile Weapon, while a Missile Launcher is a static, long ranged Weapon. The Unit is never going to get good use out of both of them consistently over the course of a Game.

- Following on from that: Avoid upgrades that aren't actually going to do anything for you. Those Platoon Standards look cool, but if you get this list into Combat with Nids, you're going to die either way. The most they're going to do is change it from losing by 8 to losing by 7. In a different regard, the Vox Casters. With Creed & Kell in the List, your Units are going to be rolling their Orders Tests on Ld10. That's reliable enough that you don't need to be spending 35 Points on Vox Casters. The Lord Commissar leads to similarly redundancy here. Without a Power Fist, all he's really doing is bumping Squads up to Ld10, which makes Kell kind of pointless. And without a big Combined Platoon to hide in, he's going to die very quickly.

That's all I can do right now. There is more to add, tho, I'll drop back in later.

*There are of course exceptions. Don't worry about them right now.

[commisarblur]

Didn't you post this list in another thread?