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Post by syphon on Sept 17, 2012 5:54:25 GMT -5
Today I saw the Cadian battleforce on the GW site for 100 euro. 20 guardsmen, parts for a command squad, 3 HW teams and a sentinel.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these guys 80-85 euro and didn't they come with 2 HW teams and a Leman Russ?
I'm starting to have second thoughts about starting a different IG army...
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 17, 2012 8:42:18 GMT -5
The battleforce with the Leman Russ is the previous one which was retired sometime before my IGMB join date so that's been gone for awhile. GW prices rise every year and guard infantry boxes changed from 20 models to 10 some time in the pseudo-distant past.
It will always be very discouraging comparing current prices to prices from ~5 years ago but you can still cut a chunk off of the GW retail price by buying from one of the independents, for a 10-25% discount or going to ebay.
Also it sounds like you already have an IG army? So at least you are in a better position than a ten year old.
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Post by Ponen19 on Sept 17, 2012 12:41:41 GMT -5
Even more frustrating when you realize that by buying the box your only saving $35 over buying them all separatly. Then considering the sentinel isn't nearly as helpful as a Russ or a Chimera, you're really only saving $5.
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Post by RedCuffs on Sept 17, 2012 13:46:00 GMT -5
Not only did you used to get a Leman Russ but you'd also get two halves of a ruined building too.
If I were to need any more models I really think I'd just use minis from another game system like Mantic and have them "count as".
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Post by syphon on Sept 17, 2012 14:21:03 GMT -5
You guys are right...
Man, this is so annoying. I am all for brand loyalty (still painting with GW paints where a lot of others seem to have switched to Vallejo) but this..this is getting ridiculous.
I mean, if you guys paid attention to the "What did GW do right?" thread, you'll know I love the backstory of WH40K. Even if it is wonky as hell in places. I mean, Macharius, Cain, Gaunt, they all make for excellent stories.
But if a battle box is that expensive straight from the source, why do I even bother? Strangely enough, Black Library omnibi are ridiculously cheap for the amount of mileage you get out of them...
I don't even play the game! I just love the fluff so much. But at times, I get bored of my Orellian 22nd Expeditionary Force because they already have a lot. A Salamander, a Vindicare assassin, an Inquisitor, even some Rogue Trader era models.
Sometimes I look at the old stuff (Like the Book of the Astronomicon) and find the models. 60 pence for 3 models! 1 pound 50 for a freaking Marneus Calgar vignette! What happened to the hobby, man?
Bah. Maybe I'll start buying more West Wind or Pig Iron. It's a shame, really. GW has a good record but with the meandering (dare I say drunk driving?) I am getting less and less interested. =/ And that's especially harsh for me to admit since a GW store (dedicated, not independent stockist) has opened near my uni this year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 13:08:53 GMT -5
I agree and sympathise with your conclusive overview of GW policies over the past few years. I'm disgusted by the price hike not just in GW but everywhere : Cigarettes, etc....
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Post by Hookah, S.C. on Sept 18, 2012 19:15:51 GMT -5
I agree and sympathise with your conclusive overview of GW policies over the past few years. I'm disgusted by the price hike not just in GW but everywhere : Cigarettes, etc.... It's like they're taxing my choice to die earlier. GW's price hikes have gone crazy(ier). They're really pissing off their core base, and i'm not too sure that is a sustainable business practice in the long run. |
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Post by Lord General Armstrong on Sept 18, 2012 19:25:32 GMT -5
It's like they're taxing my choice to die earlier. They need to keep their work force productive and healthier for longer you see. |
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Post by syphon on Sept 19, 2012 8:43:19 GMT -5
...I just realised something. The Imperium can be read as an analogue of GW!!!
The buyers are the citizens, stores are the uncaring nobles and whoever buys from Mantic or Pig Iron is a xeno!
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 19, 2012 17:18:23 GMT -5
I'm lucky to still have some Catachan stuff still unassembled from years ago, so it means I don't have to buy more.
When I do need to buy more infantry now usually I just buy torsos and legs from bitz sites and use up the cata arms/ heads I have in my bitz box. Some bitz sites are cheaper than others, so I can get a torso from 'Let the Dice decide' for 30p and legs from most bitz sites are 50p.
A few months ago I finished the oldest box of catachans, which was still in the 20 guardsmen for £18 packaging.
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Post by commisarblur on Sept 19, 2012 22:22:03 GMT -5
Today I saw the Cadian battleforce on the GW site for 100 euro. 20 guardsmen, parts for a command squad, 3 HW teams and a sentinel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these guys 80-85 euro and didn't they come with 2 HW teams and a Leman Russ? I'm starting to have second thoughts about starting a different IG army... couple of months ago GW did a price hike on all there stuff. In the states the price on a chimera went up to 87 dollars. |
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Post by Lord General Armstrong on Sept 20, 2012 0:44:14 GMT -5
I remember getting 20 Guardsmen for $50 AUD, now I get 10 for $48 AUD and with the Aussie dollar being as powerful as it is, I can purchase Forge World models for roughly the same price as their Games Workshop brethren.
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Post by syphon on Sept 20, 2012 5:31:18 GMT -5
I remember getting 20 Guardsmen for $50 AUD, now I get 10 for $48 AUD and with the Aussie dollar being as powerful as it is, I can purchase Forge World models for roughly the same price as their Games Workshop brethren. It would be a shame to actually get value for money, right?  Also, I think I found out how the business decisions are made over at GW HQ. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY |
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Post by emptyhat on Sept 20, 2012 7:17:20 GMT -5
I knew what that would link to.
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Post by syphon on Sept 20, 2012 14:07:54 GMT -5
If you knew, you agreed!
Anyway, back on topic:
We know that inflation and a crappy economy don't help, but are they really this dense at GW?
+ price & - content = PROFIT?
Aren't they aware of other companies? Reaper? Mantic? West Wind? Pig Iron?
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Sept 20, 2012 14:23:30 GMT -5
couple of months ago GW did a price hike on all there stuff. In the states the price on a chimera went up to 87 dollars. You're being robbed and it isn't by GW. Chimeras are $37 |
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Post by nickola on Sept 28, 2012 7:53:21 GMT -5
DAMN IT !!!!
I just checked on GW web Site ...
Valk : 52€ (+2€)
Battleforce : 100€ (+25€) that's a 33% increase, WTF is this ?!?
Hell Hound : 39€ (+4€)
LRBT / Demo : 39€ (+4€)
In fact, everything that was 35€ is now 39€ ... more than 10% increase...
Count no more on me to buy anything directly from them ... Alternate salers, or even alternate companies will do fair enough.
Nickola
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How can they even justify this raise, the content hasn't changed a bit...
And it's the same for every army in the range.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 15:04:08 GMT -5
I know Nikola it's called being anally fisted by small perverted imps tucked away behind computer screens. I'm sick of it tbh, i've supported GW for years and all they do is milk more of my hard earned money away from me.
Make do with the models you've got.
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Post by dangerrod on Sept 28, 2012 19:25:24 GMT -5
Try buying stuff here in Australia!
A Valkyrie here is $110 (AUS) which is actually around $108 (US) !!
Safe to say, anything bigger than a box of Guardsmen and I'm looking to ebay for a deal. even with shipping my last Valk came in at $75 (AUS) Ok, it takes longer to get here, but I dont care tbh!
Danger Rod
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Post by johnboy069 on Oct 12, 2012 23:52:19 GMT -5
...I just realised something. The Imperium can be read as an analogue of GW!!! The buyers are the citizens, stores are the uncaring nobles and whoever buys from Mantic or Pig Iron is a xeno! I know you want to stick with GW, but the Warstore has a Corporation battleforce by Mantic for cheap, and you get more troops. I am thinking about getting one to represent drop troops for my army. |
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Post by vladimir on Oct 22, 2012 9:02:46 GMT -5
Yeah...  |
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Post by johnboy069 on Oct 30, 2012 17:07:26 GMT -5
Lol, that is great.
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