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Post by treadiculous on Nov 12, 2012 10:47:02 GMT -5
I have seen in a tutorial and read here and there that you can use fine tipped pens to do details.
Do you know of any pens which are good for this, is there a special ink?
I am hoping to do a bucket load of black templar crosses (over 100 shoulder pads) and am racking my brain for a way to do this easily and consistently.
I had though to make a green stuff stamp which I could dip and press with (I even took into consideration the curve of the shoulder pad) but looking at potato prints - you have to be very careful to get the coating just right or you get seepage out the side.
I am also considering making a negative template, where by the shoulder pad is masked with a stencil and I can just apply paint to the exposed shoulder pad, again this has a risk of seepage but it is much less. (not sure quite how to go about doing this yet either).
I've looked at the Forge World transfers, but find transfers stick to players fingers, especially on should pads.. I guess I could coat with varnish afterwards. (would stop the white slowly going yellow with grease / dirt too).
thoughts and suggestions most welcome!
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Post by Cosmic on Nov 12, 2012 12:03:40 GMT -5
Just use deals, Tread. But invest in some Micro Sol and Micro Set. They'll soften the transfers so they sit better in the curved shoulder pad, and they'll just look better
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Post by dougeye on Nov 12, 2012 12:58:38 GMT -5
On a similar note i have a whole load of purity seals to do soon on my GK's and was thinking about a pen to make the squiggly lines that look like writing etc so i wouldn't mind knowing which pen to use?
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Post by Adkenpachi on Nov 12, 2012 13:01:38 GMT -5
If your GS stamp is good use that, put the paint on it with a brush to get the right ammount on.
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Post by AshotNINJA on Nov 12, 2012 13:12:16 GMT -5
i use a letraset pro-marker to do most of my text details, although i really need one a little thinner... find out where your nearest hobbycraft is.... they have a whole bunch of tiny pens for pretty much just what you need.
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Post by Q'Eltari on Nov 12, 2012 16:33:08 GMT -5
I'd go with Cosmic and say use transfers. They are so much easier than hand painting/drawing/moulding your own. The Black Templar crosses are much easier to use as transfers than other chapter symbols, as you can cut them just right so they take on the shape of a shoulder pad, but definitely micro sol and set would help if you can get them.
If you're really set on drawing them with a pen, I use a Mitsubishi Uni Pin. You can get them in black, red and blue waterproof ink and range in nib size from 0.05mm to 0.8mm wide. I use (ahem - cheat) the smallest nib one for lettering and pupils in eyes. Although they are waterproof once dry, it still would be good to seal after with varnish.
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Post by treadiculous on Nov 13, 2012 5:57:46 GMT -5
going to give this a try on a practice shoulder, though might do it again with a more curved piece as this stencil is too flat and quite stiff to curl round the pad. The other option will be to take the cut out cross, and glue it to a pad, then take a mold of that and then cut out the cross shape indent.
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Post by treadiculous on Nov 27, 2012 16:30:06 GMT -5
After having a few tries at making templates I realised I had a load of old transfers, and after a lot of fun digging (and discovering many cool bits and pieces) I have found a bunch of the transfer sheets.
I'm going to try a few with the micro sol stuff... fingers crossed!
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Nov 27, 2012 16:44:46 GMT -5
Micro Set and Micro Sol, as Cosmic and others have attested, are awesome. I don't apply decals to anything without having them on hand. Repeated applications of Micro Sol can make the decal look painted on. Just be careful not to rip the decal, as the Micro Sol will make it quite soft until dried!
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Nov 27, 2012 18:05:50 GMT -5
I have been using a 0.2 sakura micron pen to put black ink into armor joints and seams on my Ultramarines, I really have been liking the way it looks, but a smaller pen would be even better.
I just bought some Micro Set and Micro Sol today, saw if suggested on this thread and did a little research, it looks to be about what I was thinking I needed for appling transfers. I will report on how it goes.
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Post by cheminhaler on Nov 27, 2012 18:20:23 GMT -5
I have 3 fine detail art pens that I got from either a stationary store, an art shop or a WHSmith. 2 are made by Mitsubishi, funnily enough, the 3rd by Pilot. Two have a 0.05 tip (all with black ink obviously) and the other is just a fine tip . They work well enough for shouder pad detail.
I see you're already casting templar symbols, though.
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