Jangovingian 227th Heavy Brigade: "Plasma Hounds"

[syphon]

Hi folks,

you might have heard about these guys in the painting and conversion corner.

Basic rundown is this:

It has recently liberated a forge world stocked with plasma weapons, and got access to the stores of said world as a thank you.

Everybody that can do so takes carapace armour (being a heavy brigade) as well as plasma weapons (for which they earned their nickname). This includes tanks, officers, commissars, and so on.

Scheme:

White fatigues, purple carapace. Golden markings for high ranking officers, silver markings for junior officers.

Interesting facts:

The 227th has its own military police element. They like to carry shotguns as well as riot shields and shock batons.

The official mascot is a great dane called Hamlet, after some ancient Terran king.

Contrary to popular opinion, the Jangovingians are not sissy boys for wearing purple armour and will gladly reeducate anybody who says otherwise, using fists or aforementioned shock batons.

[syphon]

Three members of the 227th MP. They're obviously not done yet, as I still need to decide on a basing plan and will probably need to be inked and retouched.

[commissarbob]

Sounds interesting. Nice to see female troops too.

[syphon]

finally, an update! Behold, my crappy painting!

[3ff3ct]

I have found it!

A very bold scheme, although I think a few washes and highlights would improve it rapidly.

Try a very thin blue/grey wash over the white, and then re-highlight, as it looks very 'flat' from the pictures. Just add loads of water to the black or blue washes, and find a mix that works.

A wash and re-highlight on the skin would also add a bit of depth to the faces, use a flesh wash (Ogryn flesh? don't know what the 'new' one is!) and re-highlight your base colour.

With the purple, try adding a tiny bit of white to make it a bit pink-y, and go for an edge highlight on the armour. The Aquilas would look great in gold, very regal

I really like the white and purple on the Chimera, although as you know I like dirty tanks, so maybe a few layers of brown/black wash on the rivets, and some chips with a sponge would make it look a bit more 'front line action'

This'll look seriously cool on the tabletop though, never seen a scheme like it!

[syphon]

Because I wanted something different. I already have 2000 points of assorted IG, who have respectively got blue with white, gray with black, and blue with yellow as their colour schemes. So I went with white and purple, because, why not?

Thanks 3ff3ct, I'll see what I can make of them with your advice.

[3ff3ct]

Jan 2, 2013 6:33:38 GMT -5 syphon said:

Thanks 3ff3ct, I'll see what I can make of them with your advice.

No worries, happy to help

There's nothing wrong with your painting at all, I think you simply need to push your techniques a bit and develope a bit more confidence to try different things.

And if it all goes really REALLY pear shaped, you can always strip them and start again!;D

Keep going and don't loose faith in yourself!

[gearboxx]

i like the colours as well.. it looks great, i heard white is one of the toughest colours to paint so considering that, it's looks really good i love the riot control-guys with the shields and the clubs... are they a substitute for commisars?

[sapperq21]

like the MP idea (even tho im not a huge fan of MPs but thats cause im an engineer) love the diffrent color army very bright and it compliments the units name

[Sgt. Rock]

Love the modified Chimera. Putting the turret back and higher up reminds me of the smaller tanks that came about just before WWII, like the old Hotchkiss and Renault tanks. Neat stuff.

[syphon]

Thanks, gearboxx.
I don't think they will be commissars. I just made them for fun, because I had parts lying around. A while ago, I bought a necromunda sprue of weapons and the batons were part of them. That said, if I were to take up playing again (ignoring the fact that I'd need to learn 6th edition rules), I would probably field them as retainers to things like Penal Squads and Psyker Choirs.

Sapper, thanks. Why do you hate MPs? Did you get in a lot of trouble?

Rock, if you are interested in making one for yourself, here's a nice link:

www.astronomican.com/showthread.php?20913-Converting-Chimeras-Honsou-Style

[sapperq21]

personally i dont get in trouble with the MPs, just engineers and MPs dont get along too well round here. hahaha

[Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four]

Syphon: Are you painting white over a black primer coat? If so: Why? With your color scheme, using white primer will do most of the work for you, and I've found that washing white primer (or white primer with a thin layer of white applied over it if you can't get even coverage during priming) with (insert whatever wash you want) and then working back up with white to achieve highlights and shading will give much nicer results (and with far less effort) than painting white over a black undercoat... Just my $0.02.

For example: Here's an old school Sanguinary Priest I painted years ago.



Just white primer, washed with black, then worked back up with white, and spot colors added.

[sapperq21]

i agree with trooper. looks great, adds more depth to the fatigues

[Sgt. Rock]

Hmmm... I may end up doing just that. Nice link, very detailed.

[syphon]

I can't get white to cover well, though

[AshotNINJA]

its just a matter of patience and many layers im afraid... white is difficult.

[syphon]

So I changed the undercoat from black to white and had a little spin with this guy.



It looks as though some parts are still black but I assure you, they are purple.
I also changed the plasma core from green to red, since red's far more menacing.

[Narric]

Wow, thats an awesome Chimera conversion. I'll definately try that next time I get a Chimera

[egon]

I like the colours, but they could use a bit more work overall. Some highlights, shading and washing would work wonders, especially since you have such a contrasting colour scheme.
Since your models are basically just white and purple they need some details to make them come alive. Compare with Trooper's priest, just by adding a different colour to certain details (headlights, sights, holsters etc) you get much better results.

My favourite of your models is they guy with the blonde hair and shotgun (Has?) since you can actually make out the different details on. And the chipped off paint actually makes it looks like his pants has some depth, oddly enough.
Compare him with your Creed model, which I honestly don't think is that impressive, since he has a bunch of details which are just alla black, or all purple or all white without anything that distinguishes them which just makes the entire model look unfinished.
Of course, if these are just WIP, ignore that last sentence.

[syphon]

I understand. I tried a very thin black wash over the white fatigues but it didn't do much It just ickied them up.

To be honest, I don't know much about painting theory. Could you explain some things?

[egon]

Well, it's easier if you have specifik questions

Check out the forums and tutorials, there are tonnes of advice there. The GW site also has so great advice for beginner. Here are some basics though:

Highlighting is when you paint the very edge of something (the border of a shoulder pad, the to of a folded crease in someone's pants, etc) a similar but slightly lighter colour. This makes the edges more noticable and gives depth.

Shading is the opposite, you paint the crevases and other depp places slightly darker, to bring out the natural shadows. Like the black bits in the joints of Trooper's marine.

Washes are good because they kind of do the job for you. Use a shade of wash that is similar to the colour of the thing your washing. For white though I would use something black, grey or blueish. When you apply the was it will pool up in the nooks and crannies of the model, giving it depth.

[The Hawk!]

Very Good Syphon!! Well done mate Its good to see your work up I love the scheme, very unique Keep at it buddy

Dave

[3ff3ct]

Feb 14, 2013 17:13:52 GMT -5 egon said:

Washes are good because they kind of do the job for you. Use a shade of wash that is similar to the colour of the thing your washing. For white though I would use something black, grey or blueish. When you apply the was it will pool up in the nooks and crannies of the model, giving it depth.

If you do this, then simply don't paint over/into the crevaces, with your white colour, you'll have easy shading/highlights

Keep practicing! Your second dude is much neater, and an improvement on your first!

[Cosmic]

Even try undercoating grey, then highlighting up through off-white and then pure white. No washes, and a great result