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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 25, 2013 20:09:25 GMT -5
MOAR Catachans! Excellent, this pleases me...  You veteran looks like he's off to a good start--good color selections. The skin looks good, and I like the camo pattern on his pants. It looks like you filled in the joins between the upper arm and the torso nicely. Perhaps do a wash on his shirt, wash the bandana area, and paint his eyes? Also, maybe change the belt around his waist from brown to black--right now it sort of "gets lost" between his shirt and pants? I'm not sure about the camo pattern on the lasgun--painting it a solid color might be better, but I can't tell from the angle in the photo. Are you going for a muddy effect for the base, and he's been trudging through it? All in all, I'd say this is a good start, and I'm looking forward to seeing more!  |
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Jan 25, 2013 20:17:11 GMT -5
Honestly... I cannot lie. I have tried for years to paint eyes. I end up trying a million times on each model and still not being satisfied with it. I hate eyes. I can't do it and I don't know how you other people do it. I have done 1-2 models where the eyes came out ok ( aka not looking like retards). Maybe my brushes aren't small enough or my hands aren't steady enough... |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 25, 2013 20:22:22 GMT -5
I feel your pain. On the vet squad I was working on earlier today, I had to paint an eye on one of my vets 4 times before it came out not looking wonky.
My secret is to fill in the eye socket with thin black paint, and then carefully paint a white slash to represent the eyeball, using a small brush with only a tiny speck of paint on its very tip, and then dot the eye using just a tiny speck of black (or draw a slit down with eyeball with black), and then use a small amount of black to go over the top of the eye if the job wound up looking "pop-eyed" (unless I was specifically going for that look). Small brushes with good points, miniscule amounts of thin paint, proper lighting, and steadying your arm if you need to along with practice, practice, practice and you should be able to master the technique.
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Jan 25, 2013 20:46:25 GMT -5
Arghhh... it feels like you're challenging me. Now my entire army needs to have eyeballs. *grumble grumble*
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Post by macknight on Jan 25, 2013 20:55:39 GMT -5
Honestly... I cannot lie. I have tried for years to paint eyes. I end up trying a million times on each model and still not being satisfied with it. I hate eyes. I can't do it and I don't know how you other people do it. I have done 1-2 models where the eyes came out ok ( aka not looking like retards). Maybe my brushes aren't small enough or my hands aren't steady enough... Good to see another Catachan army among us! Also I apploud you for wanting to get better and taking in advice/critique. Eyes are quite easy actually, paint the skin tone, then paint white where the eyes are, then use smallest brush you have and paint a dot of black in the middle and then around the white encircling it, fix any areas, then wash with ogryn wash for blend. |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jan 26, 2013 9:10:46 GMT -5
It's only recently that I started painting eyes and as its been said before its not that hard to do.
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 1, 2013 0:32:20 GMT -5
And so I've begun painting eyes... see original post (fellow on the left of the command squad). I'll get a picture of just him up there soon for you guys to critique.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 1, 2013 10:20:38 GMT -5
Good start on eye painting! I think the only thing that he needs is to have a darker outline around the white of the eye to provide a bit of contrast--but this is personal preference on my part. For your first attempt at painting eyes, though, I think you nailed it! |
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Post by yvain on Feb 1, 2013 12:10:36 GMT -5
Your models look great. I have Catachan Army myself as well, they are my favorite. I agree with Trooper about changing the shirt color. I use Castellan Green on the flak armor, pants and vests. I use Deathworld Forest on shirts. After I hit all the green parts with Camoahade and it makes a good contrast I think. Eyes are a pain in the ass. Putting a single dot in the never looks right for me. What works the best for me is to make more of a cat eye just not quite as ovally. I basically to two strokes slightly downward. it makes the paint cover most of the white and it looks good. I attached a picture to explain what I am saying. The platoon commander in the middle has just dots and it looks weird. Harker on the left I started with dots, but tried to modify it. After I realized the eye thing worked better I started using it on all my models. The one on the right is a good example. I am not the best painter or anything, but this works for me.  |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 1, 2013 15:09:17 GMT -5
Hey yvain!
Always good to have another Catachan collector here on the board! I've been collecting them since they were first released back in the mid-90s. I'm also working on reconstituting my old school metal Cadians (I had a small platoon that I sold to a friend who has a massive force of them, and then regretted it because they are awesome minis like the metal Catachans). The "slit" method of eye painting, which you described is definitely another valid method for doing eyes. I sometimes employ it myself when I am painting a mini that doesn't have well defined eyeballs, like some of the early Catachan plastics.
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 1, 2013 18:56:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the critique guys. Eyes are definitely about trial and error. I suppose I'll have to put eyes on the Commander as well.
PS what do you think about the camo Lasguns, Trooper? I noticed you mentioned it in a previous post. I kinda like em. These guys are anything but flashy and it's more functional. I figure if we have camo for our guns now, it wouldn't be hard to camouflage guns in a fantasy future universe.
Also, where the hell can I get more plasma guns? I bought 2 Battalion sets (1 used & 1 new) and only have 1 Plasma gun and 1 Plasma pistol. Where can I get more?? (also the battalion sets only came with 1 grenade launcher as well. How am I supposed to do WYSIWYG if an entire battalion comes with all Lasguns??)
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Post by macknight on Feb 1, 2013 19:47:50 GMT -5
In order to get the eyes right, you have to go back and forth sometimes. Just make sure you give the eye a 'mascara' black around the whole eye so it looks natural on a mini. Also, if you want blue, green, brown, or any other eye color, just dab that color on top of the black dot iris. As far as getting more plasma or melta guns, look into space marine metal gun parts. www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440339a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40kFor grenade launchers, you need to get cadian infantry for them and cut off the hand and attach to catachan arms. If you can, try to get the female catachan grenade guardsman, a must have for all catachans. |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 1, 2013 20:36:33 GMT -5
I like the camo effect on the lasguns. I just ordered some plasma guns from BattleWagon Bits, however--for some reason--they didn't have the Catachan command squad ones available, and instead I had to order plastic Marine tactical squad ones. I'm just hoping that the pieces are the same... They should arrive next week, so I will let you know if they can be substituted. www.thewarstore.com/battlewagonbits.html |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 1, 2013 22:02:14 GMT -5
Col. Beauregard: BTW... The camo face paint on your officer is EPIC! ;D I tend to avoid doing camo skin paint on my minis, because I'm not sure that I could do a good job of it, but what you did on him is quite excellent. Not to threadjack... Yvain--would you like some feedback about your work and tips? We are fortunate to have many accomplished painters and artists in the IGMB community. Also, as a Catachan collector, I love to see more threads in this section dealing with Jungle Thugs, who get an unfortunate bad rap due to when our initial plastic kits were produced--which was before GW had perfected the techniques that allow them to make stunning plastic minis today. If you'd start your own picture thread, the community can provide you with tips, and you can post more of your work... |
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 2, 2013 0:07:35 GMT -5
Col. Beauregard: BTW... The camo face paint on your officer is EPIC! ;D I tend to avoid doing camo skin paint on my minis, because I'm not sure that I could do a good job of it, but what you did on him is quite excellent. Thanks man. I really like how he came out. I'm going back in to do his eyes though... but I think the Lime Green camo streak came out pretty decently. (I think between his face camo and the Techmarine shoulder armor on the ground is what makes him my favorite model I've done so far.) I'm getting a custom made Commissar from a buddy of mine for placing 4th in a fantasy tournament. He's throwing a Catachan flair to it so I'm pretty excited to see how it turns out. I figure the Commissar was sent to fight in the jungles but the Imperium decided to take their ships elsewhere leaving the Commissar stranded. He soon learned that his fancy attire won't be needed in a world where everything is trying to kill you. |
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Post by yvain on Feb 5, 2013 14:27:34 GMT -5
Sure I will take any feedback, but put it in whisper so I don't hijack the Cols thread any further.
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Post by velauzehraptor on Feb 6, 2013 8:36:37 GMT -5
Loving that sniper!
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 7, 2013 15:54:09 GMT -5
Sure I will take any feedback, but put it in whisper so I don't hijack the Cols thread any further. Start up a Picture Post thread of your own then, and post what you've got. I'm always glad to have more Catachan threads here on IGMB! |
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 7, 2013 17:43:32 GMT -5
A complete roster of everything I have: 1 Chimera (Converted rhino) 3 Sentinels 3 Snipers 10-15 Heavy Weapon Teams (not all are fully assembled yet) Approximately 50 Infantry Models And two tanks are in the mail (1 Leman Russ and 1 Exterminator) It's a bit daunting (as with any new army) but I'm excited to finish them up.   BTW: anyone have any ideas on painting guys in "black" camo? It doesnt seem right to just prime them black and leave it that way. I really want a spec ops unit in black camo, black facepaint, blackened guns, etc... not sure how I'd pull that off though. |
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Post by yvain on Feb 7, 2013 18:56:38 GMT -5
The far left Sentinel looks awesome.
I also your bases. I have no idea how to base, I am going to have to give it a shot after I get to 2000 points.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 7, 2013 19:18:59 GMT -5
Yeah, the Sentinels are looking great, Beauregard!
For the "black" spec ops squad... Maybe try painting them in a really dark gray, and then apply black patterns over the gray?
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 8, 2013 9:22:46 GMT -5
The far left Sentinel looks awesome. I also your bases. I have no idea how to base, I am going to have to give it a shot after I get to 2000 points. Thanks! I think I base better than I paint. I really enjoy terrain and I think that influences my basing. It gives the model that on the battlefield feel. I really want to do an urban assault force of storm troopers and have their bases be steel grates and concrete. I think it'd be a blast. Yeah, the Sentinels are looking great, Beauregard! For the "black" spec ops squad... Maybe try painting them in a really dark gray, and then apply black patterns over the gray? Yeah I like that idea. I think I might use a dark blue as well. I suppose it'll be a trial and error process. |
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 8, 2013 12:28:45 GMT -5
I like the camo effect on the lasguns. I just ordered some plasma guns from BattleWagon Bits, however--for some reason--they didn't have the Catachan command squad ones available, and instead I had to order plastic Marine tactical squad ones. I'm just hoping that the pieces are the same... They should arrive next week, so I will let you know if they can be substituted. www.thewarstore.com/battlewagonbits.htmlMy order just arrived, and the SM tac squad plasma guns are identical to the ones that come with the Catachan Command Squad set. |
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Post by Colonel Beauregard on Feb 8, 2013 13:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 8, 2013 13:42:38 GMT -5
Yup, that would be it. They make their money off of parts that are in demand, and price them accordingly... |
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