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Post by dougeye on Jan 24, 2014 10:19:10 GMT -5
I think what he might be getting at which links in to "rumours" ive heard about focusing on cadian designs is that the imperial guard will be all the different unique regiments but overall the main imperium force will be standardised into the cadian pattern design, its like in the UK we have the army and then we have the territorial army, the main army being the Astra Militarium the galactic peace keeping (or war making) force and the unique home world regiments, mordians, tallarns etc being the territorial army. this is all probably going to be written by mr ward who gave us such things as non relentless killer necrons
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jan 24, 2014 11:08:46 GMT -5
I think what he might be getting at which links in to "rumours" ive heard about focusing on cadian designs is that the imperial guard will be all the different unique regiments but overall the main imperium force will be standardised into the cadian pattern design, its like in the UK we have the army and then we have the territorial army, the main army being the Astra Militarium the galactic peace keeping (or war making) force and the unique home world regiments, mordians, tallarns etc being the territorial army. this is all probably going to be written by mr ward who gave us such things as non relentless killer necrons I really, really hope that's not what they're going to do. One of the core parts of the Guard's identity is that since the Imperium is so frigging huge, (and so technologically backward when it comes to mass production and space-borne logistics), is that it's nearly impossible to standardize equipment across the entire Imperium, and since there's such a wide variety of drastically different planets and cultures, it's almost as impossible to standardize training. It would also gut variety and the ability to create your own regiment, just like they did in the 5th Ed SM Codex (so I guess there's precedent for doing this...) Reds
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Post by dougeye on Jan 24, 2014 11:27:30 GMT -5
yeah I hope not also, the unique regiments will become planetary defence forces as they are called in most literature and cadian will be the uniform fleets of the imperium, but like you say it will kill a major part of the theme that is the imperial guard, famous regiments being plucked from their home systems and send to distant battle fields.
I bet if rough riders are going they will take out ogryns and rattlings etc aswell and create a new supplement labelled guard auxiliaries or something like that.
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Post by gamma016 on Jan 24, 2014 12:08:30 GMT -5
I bet if rough riders are going they will take out ogryns and rattlings etc aswell and create a new supplement labelled guard auxiliaries or something like that. I really hope they don't do that, they might as well stick all our tanks into a supplement or data slate too and just let everyone play with our toys
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 25, 2014 7:29:07 GMT -5
I'll never remember that...
A sample of the sort of conversation that will happen at gaming clubs:
"What army do you run?"
"Astra Mili... erm, Imperial Guard."
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Post by dougeye on Jan 25, 2014 9:45:09 GMT -5
and then the realy nerdy guy in the corner will say no you don't run guard because guard have 1 less leadership when escorted by a commissar than the astra militarinuminum when they have a commissar so technically they are not the same. also you have used mordian models which means you can't run them as astra mil etc etc lol
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 25, 2014 14:41:23 GMT -5
I don't see why the SM book gets chapter tactics (aka back to the 4th edition list style) and we lose out with the doctrines revamp for a bare bones list. No; the main guard book has to be open to all guard regiments (including rough riders), then if they want to release Cadians/ Brimlock as a supplement they can charge you another £35 to get Super Creed, version 8. Unless the guard codex IS codex cadia, in which case rough rider regiment have to wait for the 6th Krieg codex from FW.. which would suck and blow all at the same time.
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Post by vegna on Jan 25, 2014 15:18:09 GMT -5
I thought the new PDF was DKoK for 6th edition.
There rummors, we know better then to trust them! trust in the Emperor and his will! (and if we're punished for our loyalty we should join chaos!)
Basicly we've been hearing rummors a while now, very few seem to be that solid so let's wait and see then knee cap Ward.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 25, 2014 16:04:33 GMT -5
It's just band-aid until FW releases a proper codex. It's possible we might be getting a 2nd 6th ed starter set box this September and it might be Steel Legion VS Orks .. Armageddon style. Link: Natfka(Read the comments) Snap fit Steel legion would be madness, but I wonder if this means DV gets discontinued..?
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Post by dougeye on Jan 25, 2014 16:36:34 GMT -5
that would make sense based on the fact the dv figures are being released soon as kits, hellbrutes and the like.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 25, 2014 20:06:36 GMT -5
Including the dark angel tactical squad?
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Post by balashivo on Jan 26, 2014 3:10:39 GMT -5
Including the dark angel tactical squad? Nope, just the Chaos stuff. From what Naftka says
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Post by dougeye on Jan 26, 2014 3:36:19 GMT -5
Well they might get fine casted and cost £10 a figure lol
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 27, 2014 15:26:17 GMT -5
I see. I can't see the dark angel moulds being binned, in any case.
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Post by Comrade on Jan 27, 2014 19:24:45 GMT -5
Astra...... Militarium..... like WTF?
Don't think its going to happen, there is no.... history for such a thing to exist, the earliest incarnation was the Imperial Army... not this whatever it is.
I hope it doesn't happen. Its a stupid frakking name.
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Post by emptyhat on Jan 27, 2014 19:53:55 GMT -5
I see. I can't see the dark angel moulds being binned, in any case. Maybe as 3 models for £5 boxes like the rest of the snap-fits.
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Post by dougeye on Jan 28, 2014 12:28:50 GMT -5
I thought one of the main reasons guard are made up of regiments from different planets and systems is so like the space marines no one general or leader could be in command of a conquering force, being from different regimental home worlds and the like they act together on large campaigns but also as individual regiments.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 28, 2014 17:04:56 GMT -5
They are from different regiments but you can have similar looking guard from the other side of the galaxy; like Brimlock dragoons are the Ultima segmentum cadian mechanised or fortress troops.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Jan 28, 2014 20:54:51 GMT -5
Regarding DKoK, I could've sworn one of the things I recently heard was about how FW was going to become more integrated with GW's main operations, and that FW was set to start releasing codex-style books for the things they make, so theoretically DKoK could be getting their own codex if the rumors are true...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jan 28, 2014 21:12:25 GMT -5
Precisely... *evil grin* But the Hades will become crazy op again..
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Post by vegna on Jan 28, 2014 23:21:07 GMT -5
Precisely... *evil grin* But the Hades will become crazy op again.. oh the horror...the horror... *puts on gas mask*
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Post by yvain on Jan 29, 2014 18:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by howscat on Feb 1, 2014 11:13:49 GMT -5
What do you all think about grav-guns? Do you think they will add them to our weapons list? Maybe a special grav-gun LR or a variant of the hellhound with grav-weapons? Grav-pistols on our sergeants and officers? I don't know but i thought a hellhound with a special template grav-cannon thing sounds awesome.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Feb 1, 2014 11:21:35 GMT -5
Hmm... That's a good question. I could go either way on this, since grav weaponry is a nod back to the Graviton gun of the Rogue Trader days, although it worked rather differently (IIRC) than the new weapons. However, I'm not sure if the Guard should have access to them, since we've already got so many other weapons for popping things in heavy armor, and grav weapons strike me as being a bit too "relic-y" to stick into the hands of a normal grunt.
I am quite curious to see whether the 'Chans will be getting new minis, as Yvain's link to Natfka's blog would seem to indicate. Glad to hear that they likely aren't being dropped.
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Post by cheminhaler on Feb 1, 2014 12:33:02 GMT -5
From the new sm codex it says that only the most trusted techmarines are taught how to maintain grav-guns , so I don't think guard will get access at all, somehow.
Grey Knights on the other hand will probably get vehicle/ flyer mounted grav, I reckon.
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